Deep Junior 12 now available
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Re: Deep Junior 12 now available
What till it gets cracked
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Ouch. So, like, they just released it because they could?Milos wrote:Judging by early Ipon results they should maybe redefine breakthrough to like any improvement for more than 5 elo .alpha123 wrote:Maybe they found some kinda breakthrough?
BTW, does anyone know if this version can play in tournaments with the Ippos?
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New and strongest ever Deep Junior chess engine, a generation ahead in strength over Deep Junior 11.x
Taken from http://www.inwoba.de/index.html2010.10.30
Engine added - Deep Junior 12 - 2100 games
12 Elo increase for the latest release, but it played 2100 games without a crash
Something is wrong here, a generation ahead should be worth more than 12 elo surely
Perhaps there is a bug in the released engine
Mike
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I am running a DJ12 vs DJ11.2 1000 game 1 minute blitz match right now with ponder on and each engine using 2 cores. so far I see a 12 elo TP over DJ11.2
see link for screenshot:
http://www.tedsummers.com/dj12.jpg
see link for screenshot:
http://www.tedsummers.com/dj12.jpg
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Dosen't make sense to me to release it with only 12 elo describing it as a generation ahead. It will be interesting to see your results after the 1000 games finish. I would have expected DJ12 to show a bigger improvement against DJ11.2 in a head to head though than against other opponents..I am running a DJ12 vs DJ11.2 1000 game 1 minute blitz match right now with ponder on and each engine using 2 cores. so far I see a 12 elo TP over DJ11.2
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I agree ...mhurd wrote:Dosen't make sense to me to release it with only 12 elo describing it as a generation ahead. It will be interesting to see your results after the 1000 games finish. I would have expected DJ12 to show a bigger improvement against DJ11.2 in a head to head though than against other opponents..I am running a DJ12 vs DJ11.2 1000 game 1 minute blitz match right now with ponder on and each engine using 2 cores. so far I see a 12 elo TP over DJ11.2
Mike
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Re: Deep Junior 12 now available
My results for Deep Junior 11.1a were better than for Deep Junior 11.2, so hopefully things aren't going backwards.AdminX wrote:I am running a DJ12 vs DJ11.2 1000 game 1 minute blitz match right now with ponder on and each engine using 2 cores. so far I see a 12 elo TP over DJ11.2
see link for screenshot:
http://www.tedsummers.com/dj12.jpg
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Well the match finished with a +10 TP for DJ12Graham Banks wrote:My results for Deep Junior 11.1a were better than for Deep Junior 11.2, so hopefully things aren't going backwards.AdminX wrote:I am running a DJ12 vs DJ11.2 1000 game 1 minute blitz match right now with ponder on and each engine using 2 cores. so far I see a 12 elo TP over DJ11.2
see link for screenshot:
http://www.tedsummers.com/dj12.jpg
Intel Core 2 Quad (Q6700), Blitz 1m 0
1 Deep Junior 12 UCI +10 +240/=549/-211 51.45% 514.5/1000
2 Deep Junior 11.2 UCI -10 +211/=549/-240 48.55% 485.5/1000
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Re: Deep Junior 12 now available
AdminX wrote:Well the match finished with a +10 TP for DJ12Graham Banks wrote:My results for Deep Junior 11.1a were better than for Deep Junior 11.2, so hopefully things aren't going backwards.AdminX wrote:I am running a DJ12 vs DJ11.2 1000 game 1 minute blitz match right now with ponder on and each engine using 2 cores. so far I see a 12 elo TP over DJ11.2
see link for screenshot:
http://www.tedsummers.com/dj12.jpg
Intel Core 2 Quad (Q6700), Blitz 1m 0
1 Deep Junior 12 UCI +10 +240/=549/-211 51.45% 514.5/1000
2 Deep Junior 11.2 UCI -10 +211/=549/-240 48.55% 485.5/1000
Yikes ?!
I am a huge fan on Junior and have purchased every version from 5-11. However, in the past each new version offered something new. Why would Amir and Shay release the engine with no real improvements? This seems very strange to me, very strange indeed!
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Re: Deep Junior 12 now available
Respectfully, and after some more time-consuming tests, speak quietly, Junior is dead.