Aside: Bad fruitage of computer language ownership

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Aside: Bad fruitage of computer language ownership

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Google for "Oracle sues Google over Java use in Android"

Most languages are not owned by any body but are controlled by ANSI and ISO. Sun (which owned Java) was bought by Oracle and Oracle is now in lawsuit with Google for using Java ideas.

This is the only thing I can think of that is even more evil than software patents.
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Re: Aside: Bad fruitage of computer language ownership

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Dann Corbit wrote:Google for "Oracle sues Google over Java use in Android"

Most languages are not owned by any body but are controlled by ANSI and ISO. Sun (which owned Java) was bought by Oracle and Oracle is now in lawsuit with Google for using Java ideas.

This is the only thing I can think of that is even more evil than software patents.
Well I was not expecting something good about Sun's acquisition by Oracle. The interesting thing is that Oracle itself had extensively used Java in their products long before buying Sun.
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bhlangonijr wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:Google for "Oracle sues Google over Java use in Android"

Most languages are not owned by any body but are controlled by ANSI and ISO. Sun (which owned Java) was bought by Oracle and Oracle is now in lawsuit with Google for using Java ideas.

This is the only thing I can think of that is even more evil than software patents.
Particularly when many of the comp. sci. concepts have been developed at Universities with research payed with taxes.

One day, human civilization will look at this patented nonsense as an example of the selfish myopic culture we live in.


Well I was not expecting something good about Sun's acquisition by Oracle. The interesting thing is that Oracle itself had extensively used Java in their products long before buying Sun.
Looks like the pirates bought the Spaniard galleons and now they are suing the Peruvians for their gold jewelry :-)

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Re: Aside: Bad fruitage of computer language ownership

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Dann Corbit wrote:Google for "Oracle sues Google over Java use in Android"
Smells like SCO spirit *sigh*

Let's hope for the best, as Java is such a great language.
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Re: Aside: Bad fruitage of computer language ownership

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OliverUwira wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:Google for "Oracle sues Google over Java use in Android"
Smells like SCO spirit *sigh*

Let's hope for the best, as Java is such a great language.
Not just that, the JVM is amazing and hosts quite a few other languages (Scala, Groovy, Clojure, and ports of others).

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Re: Aside: Bad fruitage of computer language ownership

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Dann Corbit wrote:Google for "Oracle sues Google over Java use in Android"

Most languages are not owned by any body but are controlled by ANSI and ISO. Sun (which owned Java) was bought by Oracle and Oracle is now in lawsuit with Google for using Java ideas.

This is the only thing I can think of that is even more evil than software patents.
I thought this actually was about software patents.

The Android runtime supposedly uses some software techniques that Sun has patented for use in the JVM.
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Re: Aside: Bad fruitage of computer language ownership

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Bo Persson wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:Google for "Oracle sues Google over Java use in Android"

Most languages are not owned by any body but are controlled by ANSI and ISO. Sun (which owned Java) was bought by Oracle and Oracle is now in lawsuit with Google for using Java ideas.

This is the only thing I can think of that is even more evil than software patents.
I thought this actually was about software patents.

The Android runtime supposedly uses some software techniques that Sun has patented for use in the JVM.
I think you are right: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/pdfs/FI ... =mncol;txt
This is ridiculous. I hope no one is gonna issue a patent for using alpha-beta.
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Re: Aside: Bad fruitage of computer language ownership

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bhlangonijr wrote:
Bo Persson wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:Google for "Oracle sues Google over Java use in Android"

Most languages are not owned by any body but are controlled by ANSI and ISO. Sun (which owned Java) was bought by Oracle and Oracle is now in lawsuit with Google for using Java ideas.

This is the only thing I can think of that is even more evil than software patents.
I thought this actually was about software patents.

The Android runtime supposedly uses some software techniques that Sun has patented for use in the JVM.
I think you are right: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/pdfs/FI ... =mncol;txt
This is ridiculous. I hope no one is gonna issue a patent for using alpha-beta.
They can't. I'm pretty sure the guy who invented it is dead.

Peter
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