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Yep,and Vasik is a priest,he doesn't lie at all....mhalstern wrote:Vas has stated at least once, that at most, Rybka gained 20 elo from his having studied the Fruit code.
Do you consider this person is more likely to be telling the truth than Bob, Zak and everyone else who has told you from where Rybka 1 originates?Graham Banks wrote:Having spoken to somebody who has a copy of the early Rybka, the basis of the original weaker engine can still be seen in Rybka 1.0.Milos wrote:Did he also made a statement about existence of Santa Close since that one would be more convincing.mhalstern wrote:Vas has stated at least once, that at most, Rybka gained 20 elo from his having studied the Fruit code.
Vas gained 800 elo from studying and also copying Fruit code. More precisely he gained 800 elo by translating Fruit into bitboards and by trashing out in total his original mediocre engine also named Rybka.
Hint: "thinkers" guys moderator...mhalstern wrote:I have no idea who CC is. If he is watching this thread, please comment.
kgburcham wrote:"Vasik Rajlich wrote:
Yes, the publication of Fruit 2.1 was huge. Look at how many engines took a massive jump in its wake: Rybka, Hiarcs, Fritz, Zappa, Spike, List, and so on. I went through the Fruit 2.1 source code forwards and backwards and took many things."
To justify this Vasik statement I will tell myself that Vasik had verbal secret legal permission from Fruit author to copy "many things" from Fruit 2.1 source.
Modified kns and depth from Rybka program to fool anyone that might possibly get an idea from Rybka real kns/depth.
To justify this modification in my expensive Deep Rybka 4 program I will tell myself that Vasik is such a high level programmer that if he reveals his normal kns/depth such as 4000kns instead of 400kns, then other programmers will say, "Damn there it is 4000kns, now I know exactly what Vas is doing and all I have to do is get mine to play 4000kns."
kgburcham