I thought Fruit already did that. But note that the problem was not to solve the second and third position I gave by search. With 18 or 26 ply search of course they are trivial to solve. But these were the leaf positions at the end of a 30+ ply search, so they have to be scored purely by the static evaluation. So it would be relevant to see what your engine says at 0 ply. Or when you search from the first position.Desperado wrote:@HG : maybe you like to report what happens in Fruit, if you always replace an entry which already exists...
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Re: Stupid engines
The first position in this thread ...
nearly +1.xx / sec raising with the result above...
here the full resolution...
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Neue Partie - Nemo SP64 0.51 00
8/6k1/1p6/6P1/p1p5/P1P2K1p/2P2P2/8 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Nemo SP64 0.51 00:
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Ke5 Ke7 14.f6+ Kd7 15.Kd5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.f7
+- (8.70) Tiefe: 32 00:00:08 25570kN
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here the full resolution...
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Analysis by Nemo SP64 0.51 00:
1...h2 2.Kg2 Kg6 3.Kxh2 Kxg5
² (0.44) Tiefe: 2 00:00:00
1...h2 2.Kg2 Kg6 3.Kxh2 Kxg5
² (0.44) Tiefe: 2 00:00:00
1...h2 2.Kg2 Kg6 3.Kxh2 Kxg5
² (0.44) Tiefe: 2 00:00:00
1...h2 2.Kg2 Kg6 3.f4 h1D+ 4.Kxh1 Kf5
+- (1.93) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4
² (0.32) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2
² (0.48) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2
² (0.48) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2
² (0.48) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2
² (0.48) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2
² (0.48) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2
² (0.48) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2
² (0.48) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Ke4
² (0.39) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Ke4
² (0.39) Tiefe: 7 00:00:00 3kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Ke4
² (0.39) Tiefe: 7 00:00:00 3kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Ke4
² (0.39) Tiefe: 7 00:00:00 3kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 b5 5.f3
² (0.29) Tiefe: 7 00:00:00 4kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 b5 5.f3
² (0.29) Tiefe: 8 00:00:00 4kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 b5 5.f3
² (0.29) Tiefe: 8 00:00:00 4kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 b5 5.f3 Ke5
² (0.36) Tiefe: 9 00:00:00 7kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 b5
² (0.41) Tiefe: 9 00:00:00 9kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 b5
² (0.41) Tiefe: 10 00:00:00 9kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 b5
² (0.41) Tiefe: 10 00:00:00 10kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 b5 6.Kf2 Ke5
² (0.48) Tiefe: 11 00:00:00 13kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 b5 6.Kf2 Ke5
² (0.48) Tiefe: 11 00:00:00 15kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 b5 7.Kf2
² (0.57) Tiefe: 12 00:00:00 19kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 b5 7.Kf2
² (0.57) Tiefe: 12 00:00:00 22kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 b5 7.Ke2 Ke5 8.Ke3
² (0.67) Tiefe: 13 00:00:00 29kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 b5 7.Ke2 Ke5 8.Ke3
² (0.67) Tiefe: 13 00:00:00 31kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Ke5 7.Ke3 b5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3
² (0.67) Tiefe: 14 00:00:00 37kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Ke5 7.Ke3 b5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3
² (0.67) Tiefe: 14 00:00:00 40kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kd4 Kxf4 10.Kxc4
² (0.70) Tiefe: 15 00:00:00 55kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kd4 Kxf4 10.Kxc4
² (0.70) Tiefe: 15 00:00:00 59kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 b5 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 Kf6
± (0.80) Tiefe: 16 00:00:00 82kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 b5 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 Kf6
± (0.80) Tiefe: 16 00:00:00 88kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 b5 10.Ke3 Kf6
± (0.83) Tiefe: 17 00:00:00 124kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 b5 10.Ke3 Kf6
± (0.83) Tiefe: 17 00:00:00 133kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 b5 10.Ke3 Kf6 11.Ke4
± (0.96) Tiefe: 18 00:00:00 163kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 b5 10.Ke3 Kf6 11.Ke4
± (0.96) Tiefe: 18 00:00:00 174kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.f5+ Kf6 11.Kf4 b5
± (1.05) Tiefe: 19 00:00:00 239kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.f5+ Kf6 11.Kf4 b5
± (1.05) Tiefe: 19 00:00:00 251kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 b5 9.Ke3 Kf6 10.Ke4 Ke6 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4
± (1.05) Tiefe: 20 00:00:00 275kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 b5 9.Ke3 Kf6 10.Ke4 Ke6 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4
± (1.05) Tiefe: 20 00:00:00 288kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 b5 9.Ke3 Kf6 10.Ke4 Ke6 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7
± (1.27) Tiefe: 21 00:00:00 353kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 b5 9.Ke3 Kf6 10.Ke4 Ke6 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7
± (1.27) Tiefe: 21 00:00:00 373kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kxb6
+- (1.74) Tiefe: 22 00:00:00 459kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kxb6
+- (1.74) Tiefe: 22 00:00:00 487kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kxb6
+- (1.74) Tiefe: 23 00:00:00 545kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kxb6
+- (1.74) Tiefe: 23 00:00:00 572kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kc6 Ke5 14.Kxb6
+- (1.80) Tiefe: 24 00:00:00 691kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kc6 Ke5 14.Kxb6
+- (1.80) Tiefe: 24 00:00:00 744kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf6 8.Kg4 Kg6 9.f5+ Kf6 10.Kf4 b5 11.Ke4 Kf7 12.Ke5 Ke7 13.f6+ Kf7 14.Kf5 Ke8 15.Ke5
+- (2.02) Tiefe: 25 00:00:00 1066kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf6 8.Kg4 Kg6 9.f5+ Kf6 10.Kf4 b5 11.Ke4 Kf7 12.Ke5 Ke7 13.f6+ Kf7 14.Kf5 Ke8 15.Ke5
+- (2.02) Tiefe: 25 00:00:00 1114kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kd6 12.Kf4 Kd7 13.Ke5 Ke7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 Kg8 16.Ke5
+- (2.28) Tiefe: 26 00:00:00 1566kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kd6 12.Kf4 Kd7 13.Ke5 Ke7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 Kg8 16.Ke5
+- (2.28) Tiefe: 26 00:00:00 1627kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Ke6 9.Ke4 b5 10.f5+ Kf6 11.Kf4 Kf7 12.Kg5 Kg7 13.f6+ Kf7 14.Kf5 b4 15.cxb4 c3 16.b5
+- (3.51) Tiefe: 27 00:00:00 2163kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Ke6 9.Ke4 b5 10.f5+ Kf6 11.Kf4 Kf7 12.Kg5 Kg7 13.f6+ Kf7 14.Kf5 b4 15.cxb4 c3 16.b5
+- (3.51) Tiefe: 27 00:00:00 2292kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5
+- (3.51) Tiefe: 28 00:00:02 7668kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5
+- (3.51) Tiefe: 28 00:00:02 7829kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5
+- (3.89) Tiefe: 29 00:00:03 9145kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5
+- (3.89) Tiefe: 29 00:00:03 9292kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5
+- (4.25) Tiefe: 30 00:00:03 11264kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5
+- (4.25) Tiefe: 30 00:00:04 11580kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 Ke8 17.Ke6
+- (4.59) Tiefe: 31 00:00:04 12564kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 Ke8 17.Ke6
+- (4.59) Tiefe: 31 00:00:04 13037kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Ke5 Ke7 14.f6+ Kd7 15.Kd5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.f7
+- (8.70) Tiefe: 32 00:00:08 25117kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Ke5 Ke7 14.f6+ Kd7 15.Kd5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.f7
+- (8.70) Tiefe: 32 00:00:08 25570kN
(H, privat 06.10.2011)