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Re: Stupid engines

Post by hgm »

Desperado wrote:@HG : maybe you like to report what happens in Fruit, if you always replace an entry which already exists...
I thought Fruit already did that. But note that the problem was not to solve the second and third position I gave by search. With 18 or 26 ply search of course they are trivial to solve. But these were the leaf positions at the end of a 30+ ply search, so they have to be scored purely by the static evaluation. So it would be relevant to see what your engine says at 0 ply. Or when you search from the first position.
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Re: Stupid engines

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The first position in this thread ...

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Neue Partie - Nemo SP64 0.51  00
8/6k1/1p6/6P1/p1p5/P1P2K1p/2P2P2/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Nemo SP64 0.51  00:

1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Ke5 Ke7 14.f6+ Kd7 15.Kd5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.f7 
+-  (8.70)    Tiefe: 32   00:00:08  25570kN
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nearly +1.xx / sec raising with the result above...


here the full resolution...

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Analysis by Nemo SP64 0.51  00:

1...h2 2.Kg2 Kg6 3.Kxh2 Kxg5 
  ²  (0.44)   Tiefe: 2   00:00:00
1...h2 2.Kg2 Kg6 3.Kxh2 Kxg5 
  ²  (0.44)   Tiefe: 2   00:00:00
1...h2 2.Kg2 Kg6 3.Kxh2 Kxg5 
  ²  (0.44)   Tiefe: 2   00:00:00
1...h2 2.Kg2 Kg6 3.f4 h1D+ 4.Kxh1 Kf5 
  +-  (1.93)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 
  ²  (0.32)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 
  ²  (0.48)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 
  ²  (0.48)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 
  ²  (0.48)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 
  ²  (0.48)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 
  ²  (0.48)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 
  ²  (0.48)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 
  ²  (0.48)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Ke4 
  ²  (0.39)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Ke4 
  ²  (0.39)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00  3kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Ke4 
  ²  (0.39)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00  3kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Ke4 
  ²  (0.39)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00  3kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 b5 5.f3 
  ²  (0.29)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00  4kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 b5 5.f3 
  ²  (0.29)   Tiefe: 8   00:00:00  4kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 b5 5.f3 
  ²  (0.29)   Tiefe: 8   00:00:00  4kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 b5 5.f3 Ke5 
  ²  (0.36)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  7kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 b5 
  ²  (0.41)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  9kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 b5 
  ²  (0.41)   Tiefe: 10   00:00:00  9kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 b5 
  ²  (0.41)   Tiefe: 10   00:00:00  10kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 b5 6.Kf2 Ke5 
  ²  (0.48)   Tiefe: 11   00:00:00  13kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 b5 6.Kf2 Ke5 
  ²  (0.48)   Tiefe: 11   00:00:00  15kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 b5 7.Kf2 
  ²  (0.57)   Tiefe: 12   00:00:00  19kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 b5 7.Kf2 
  ²  (0.57)   Tiefe: 12   00:00:00  22kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 b5 7.Ke2 Ke5 8.Ke3 
  ²  (0.67)   Tiefe: 13   00:00:00  29kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 b5 7.Ke2 Ke5 8.Ke3 
  ²  (0.67)   Tiefe: 13   00:00:00  31kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Ke5 7.Ke3 b5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 
  ²  (0.67)   Tiefe: 14   00:00:00  37kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Ke5 7.Ke3 b5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 
  ²  (0.67)   Tiefe: 14   00:00:00  40kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kd4 Kxf4 10.Kxc4 
  ²  (0.70)   Tiefe: 15   00:00:00  55kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kd4 Kxf4 10.Kxc4 
  ²  (0.70)   Tiefe: 15   00:00:00  59kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 b5 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 Kf6 
  ±  (0.80)   Tiefe: 16   00:00:00  82kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 b5 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 Kf6 
  ±  (0.80)   Tiefe: 16   00:00:00  88kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 b5 10.Ke3 Kf6 
  ±  (0.83)   Tiefe: 17   00:00:00  124kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 b5 10.Ke3 Kf6 
  ±  (0.83)   Tiefe: 17   00:00:00  133kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 b5 10.Ke3 Kf6 11.Ke4 
  ±  (0.96)   Tiefe: 18   00:00:00  163kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kf5 9.Kf3 b5 10.Ke3 Kf6 11.Ke4 
  ±  (0.96)   Tiefe: 18   00:00:00  174kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.f5+ Kf6 11.Kf4 b5 
  ±  (1.05)   Tiefe: 19   00:00:00  239kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.f5+ Kf6 11.Kf4 b5 
  ±  (1.05)   Tiefe: 19   00:00:00  251kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 b5 9.Ke3 Kf6 10.Ke4 Ke6 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 
  ±  (1.05)   Tiefe: 20   00:00:00  275kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 b5 9.Ke3 Kf6 10.Ke4 Ke6 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 
  ±  (1.05)   Tiefe: 20   00:00:00  288kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 b5 9.Ke3 Kf6 10.Ke4 Ke6 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 
  ±  (1.27)   Tiefe: 21   00:00:00  353kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 b5 9.Ke3 Kf6 10.Ke4 Ke6 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 
  ±  (1.27)   Tiefe: 21   00:00:00  373kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kxb6 
  +-  (1.74)   Tiefe: 22   00:00:00  459kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kxb6 
  +-  (1.74)   Tiefe: 22   00:00:00  487kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kxb6 
  +-  (1.74)   Tiefe: 23   00:00:00  545kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kxb6 
  +-  (1.74)   Tiefe: 23   00:00:00  572kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kc6 Ke5 14.Kxb6 
  +-  (1.80)   Tiefe: 24   00:00:00  691kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Kf6 9.Ke4 Ke6 10.Kd4 Kf5 11.Kxc4 Kxf4 12.Kb5 Ke4 13.Kc6 Ke5 14.Kxb6 
  +-  (1.80)   Tiefe: 24   00:00:00  744kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf6 8.Kg4 Kg6 9.f5+ Kf6 10.Kf4 b5 11.Ke4 Kf7 12.Ke5 Ke7 13.f6+ Kf7 14.Kf5 Ke8 15.Ke5 
  +-  (2.02)   Tiefe: 25   00:00:00  1066kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf6 8.Kg4 Kg6 9.f5+ Kf6 10.Kf4 b5 11.Ke4 Kf7 12.Ke5 Ke7 13.f6+ Kf7 14.Kf5 Ke8 15.Ke5 
  +-  (2.02)   Tiefe: 25   00:00:00  1114kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kd6 12.Kf4 Kd7 13.Ke5 Ke7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 Kg8 16.Ke5 
  +-  (2.28)   Tiefe: 26   00:00:00  1566kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kd6 12.Kf4 Kd7 13.Ke5 Ke7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 Kg8 16.Ke5 
  +-  (2.28)   Tiefe: 26   00:00:00  1627kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Ke6 9.Ke4 b5 10.f5+ Kf6 11.Kf4 Kf7 12.Kg5 Kg7 13.f6+ Kf7 14.Kf5 b4 15.cxb4 c3 16.b5 
  +-  (3.51)   Tiefe: 27   00:00:00  2163kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.f3 Kf5 4.Kxh3 Kf4 5.Kg2 Kf5 6.Kg3 Kg5 7.f4+ Kf5 8.Kf3 Ke6 9.Ke4 b5 10.f5+ Kf6 11.Kf4 Kf7 12.Kg5 Kg7 13.f6+ Kf7 14.Kf5 b4 15.cxb4 c3 16.b5 
  +-  (3.51)   Tiefe: 27   00:00:00  2292kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5 
  +-  (3.51)   Tiefe: 28   00:00:02  7668kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5 
  +-  (3.51)   Tiefe: 28   00:00:02  7829kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5 
  +-  (3.89)   Tiefe: 29   00:00:03  9145kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5 
  +-  (3.89)   Tiefe: 29   00:00:03  9292kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5 
  +-  (4.25)   Tiefe: 30   00:00:03  11264kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.b5 
  +-  (4.25)   Tiefe: 30   00:00:04  11580kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 Ke8 17.Ke6 
  +-  (4.59)   Tiefe: 31   00:00:04  12564kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Kg5 Kg7 14.f6+ Kf7 15.Kf5 b4 16.cxb4 Ke8 17.Ke6 
  +-  (4.59)   Tiefe: 31   00:00:04  13037kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Ke5 Ke7 14.f6+ Kd7 15.Kd5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.f7 
  +-  (8.70)   Tiefe: 32   00:00:08  25117kN
1...Kg6 2.Kg3 Kxg5 3.Kxh3 Kf4 4.Kg2 Kg4 5.f3+ Kf4 6.Kf2 Kf5 7.Ke3 Ke5 8.f4+ Kd5 9.Kf3 Ke6 10.Ke4 b5 11.f5+ Kf6 12.Kf4 Kf7 13.Ke5 Ke7 14.f6+ Kd7 15.Kd5 b4 16.cxb4 c3 17.f7 
  +-  (8.70)   Tiefe: 32   00:00:08  25570kN

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