Robo started out as a cleaned up version of Ippo. More improvements were made, but they are all minor resulting in a very minor strength increase of 40 points if really that much.kranium wrote:wrong...CRoberson wrote: Robo = ippo cleaned up a bit to make it more human readable.
there's quite a bit more, (especially if you take time to look, and not simply rush to judgement, and post something because it serves your seemingly 'Elitist' agenda)
version 0.09
- The source code readability greatly improved, translations added and updated, indentation and white space usage unified and standardized
-All new features easy adjustable during compilation time by setting appropriate switches in robbolito.h
-Alignment of hash structures improved
-Improved bit scan functions
-Improved rand function
-New version of popcnt function as an option
-Cache prefetching added
-New smooth scaling of null move, inspired by Dann Corbit's idea, and modified for Robbolito
-Improved time management especially in time controls without increment and tournament. The basic TM from g3, improved with some ideas from e4 and from the anonymous author.
Ps-
here's the longest running rating list from Immortal...
seems like Robbolito is well ahead...where did you get your info?
or is this just another part of the unending CCC 'good-old boys' misinformation campaign to discredit others?
WCCC 2011 - Junior is the 2011 World Champion
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Nothing published in Science is accepted without signature and references. Ippo has none of that. Because of that, you have no proof of its originality nor does anybody else other than the so called authors which don't have the balls to sign their names.kranium wrote:PS-CRoberson wrote: Robo = ippo cleaned up a bit to make it more human readable.
it Robbo, not Robo (i.e. has nothing to do with robotics)
that being said, it makes perfect sense you are ignorant in these matters...
unfortunately, i can't produce a (more acceptable?) CCRL rating list comparing Ippolit vs Robbolito...know why?
because CCRL has never tested either engine!
why not one may ask? well, let's be perfectly honest Charles...
it's because people like you, Bob Hyatt, Don Dailey, Graham Banks, etc., etc. (i.e. the collective 'good-old-boys') have perpetrated an endless campaign to completely discredit anything associated with ippolit...and without any 'stitch'of proof of wrongdoing or illegality.
why?
i don't know, i don't undertand
perhaps you can answer that yourself if you try...
i can only speculate:
a pathetic and desperate need to eliminate ippolit from the reality that it exists and is valid...and is better than my engine?
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You know what really gets me? I know the authors of the family of Ippo/Robbo/and all it's bothers and sisters are reading and even posting in this forum. I'm waiting for them to finally rip off their idiotic grinning masks for all of us instead of some of us to see.CRoberson wrote:Robo started out as a cleaned up version of Ippo. More improvements were made, but they are all minor resulting in a very minor strength increase of 40 points if really that much.kranium wrote:wrong...CRoberson wrote: Robo = ippo cleaned up a bit to make it more human readable.
there's quite a bit more, (especially if you take time to look, and not simply rush to judgement, and post something because it serves your seemingly 'Elitist' agenda)
version 0.09
- The source code readability greatly improved, translations added and updated, indentation and white space usage unified and standardized
-All new features easy adjustable during compilation time by setting appropriate switches in robbolito.h
-Alignment of hash structures improved
-Improved bit scan functions
-Improved rand function
-New version of popcnt function as an option
-Cache prefetching added
-New smooth scaling of null move, inspired by Dann Corbit's idea, and modified for Robbolito
-Improved time management especially in time controls without increment and tournament. The basic TM from g3, improved with some ideas from e4 and from the anonymous author.
Ps-
here's the longest running rating list from Immortal...
seems like Robbolito is well ahead...where did you get your info?
or is this just another part of the unending CCC 'good-old boys' misinformation campaign to discredit others?
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I think my last post about no balls covers it.Terry McCracken wrote:
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You know what really gets me? I know the authors of the family of Ippo/Robbo/and all it's bothers and sisters are reading and even posting in this forum. I'm waiting for them to finally rip off their idiotic grinning masks for all of us instead of some of us to see.
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yes, i understand your only recourse is to insult them...CRoberson wrote: Because of that, you have no proof of its originality nor does anybody else other than the so called authors which don't have the balls to sign their names.
(but their masculinity?)
very sad...
it appears your baseless 'campaign to discredit' is reaching new lows.
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I think it may be too late. If someone were to start claiming to be the original author of Ippolit or Robbolito, would anyone actually believe them?Terry McCracken wrote: You know what really gets me? I know the authors of the family of Ippo/Robbo/and all it's bothers and sisters are reading and even posting in this forum. I'm waiting for them to finally rip off their idiotic grinning masks for all of us instead of some of us to see.
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You fail to understand Levy used the wrong word ?hgm wrote:OK, so you are incapable of understanding the logic in even the most simple sentences, is that what you want to tell the world?Rebel wrote:The International Computer Games Association (ICGA) has been conducting an investigation into allegations that, in the chess program Rybka, the programmer Vasik Rajlich plagiarized two other programs: Crafty and Fruit.
Following the interpretation of rule #2 due to the Rybka-ICGA fiasco we are all plagiarists because we take ideas.
Because all readers older than 5 years and not suffering from Downs syndrome of course instantly understand that if you do A, and A is form of B, while C is (perhaps...) another form of B, it does in no way imply you also did C...
Why did Levy use the word plagiarism (which includes idea) and not the crystal clear "copying" we all do here?
Assuming you are not suffering from Down's explain the obvious.
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You've got a point! Okay Milos and friends you're safe!wgarvin wrote:I think it may be too late. If someone were to start claiming to be the original author of Ippolit or Robbolito, would anyone actually believe them?Terry McCracken wrote: You know what really gets me? I know the authors of the family of Ippo/Robbo/and all it's bothers and sisters are reading and even posting in this forum. I'm waiting for them to finally rip off their idiotic grinning masks for all of us instead of some of us to see.
Just don't mess with it on IBM's time or they'll be claiming it for their own!
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Boy, David is really careless......Rebel wrote:You fail to understand Levy used the wrong word ?hgm wrote:OK, so you are incapable of understanding the logic in even the most simple sentences, is that what you want to tell the world?Rebel wrote:The International Computer Games Association (ICGA) has been conducting an investigation into allegations that, in the chess program Rybka, the programmer Vasik Rajlich plagiarized two other programs: Crafty and Fruit.
Following the interpretation of rule #2 due to the Rybka-ICGA fiasco we are all plagiarists because we take ideas.
Because all readers older than 5 years and not suffering from Downs syndrome of course instantly understand that if you do A, and A is form of B, while C is (perhaps...) another form of B, it does in no way imply you also did C...
Why did Levy use the word plagiarism (which includes idea) and not the crystal clear "copying" we all do here?
Assuming you are not suffering from Down's explain the obvious.
Terry McCracken
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are the ippolit authors obliged to prove their originality?CRoberson wrote:Nothing published in Science is accepted without signature and references. Ippo has none of that. Because of that, you have no proof of its originality nor does anybody else other than the so called authors which don't have the balls to sign their names.kranium wrote:PS-CRoberson wrote: Robo = ippo cleaned up a bit to make it more human readable.
it Robbo, not Robo (i.e. has nothing to do with robotics)
that being said, it makes perfect sense you are ignorant in these matters...
unfortunately, i can't produce a (more acceptable?) CCRL rating list comparing Ippolit vs Robbolito...know why?
because CCRL has never tested either engine!
why not one may ask? well, let's be perfectly honest Charles...
it's because people like you, Bob Hyatt, Don Dailey, Graham Banks, etc., etc. (i.e. the collective 'good-old-boys') have perpetrated an endless campaign to completely discredit anything associated with ippolit...and without any 'stitch'of proof of wrongdoing or illegality.
why?
i don't know, i don't undertand
perhaps you can answer that yourself if you try...
i can only speculate:
a pathetic and desperate need to eliminate ippolit from the reality that it exists and is valid...and is better than my engine?
isn't the 'onus' is upon you to prove wrongdoing...(innocent until proven guilty)
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'signatures' and references...?
what are you talking about?
this is not a job application for a 'Nanny' position..
do you require such 'documents/proofs' for entry into the ACCA?
or are you just making stuff up as you go along?
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