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Some Notes about Hyper-Threading
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Robert Hyatt



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PostPost subject: Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading    Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:25 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Hello Dear Friends,

Honestly,i am surprised and impressed by the latest results of Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 12 Threads (HT ON)

Of course,for a better conclusion more games are needed...
But however,looking at the current results,still i don't expect the ELO performance to be in favor for HT Enabled
Some Notes:
-Since December 2011,SCCT Auto232 Participants are started to use 512 MB Hashtable size
-Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 1c performed approx.10 ELO better than Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 1c
-Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 4c performed approx.10 ELO better than Houdini 2.0b Pro x64 4c
In other words,Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 6c's expected ELO performance to be min 15 ELO stronger than Houdini 2.0b Pro x64 6c
And that means (as i mentioned before) Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 6c is expected to be approx. 10 ELO stronger than Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 12t


Let’s see, what will the HT ELO performance after more games…

Code:
Rank Name                        Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws
   1 Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 12t   3424   34   34   254   65%  3325   41%
   2 Houdini 2.0b Pro x64 6c    3419   17   17  1009   69%  3300   46%
   3 Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 4c     3362   16   16  1131   61%  3293   49%
   4 Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 6c      3359   18   18   848   61%  3294   58%
   5 Houdini 2.0b Pro x64 4c    3351   17   17   991   51%  3343   47%
   6 Houdini 1.5a x64 4c        3344   16   16  1086   62%  3272   48%
   7 Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c      3293   13   13  1603   47%  3314   56%
   8 Critter 1.2 x64 4c         3288   16   16  1037   50%  3290   58%
   9 IvanHoe 47c GH x64 4c      3281   15   15  1109   49%  3288   60%
  10 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 4c     3275   15   15  1165   41%  3328   59%
  11 IvanHoe 0B.09.18 x64 4c    3270   16   16  1008   46%  3294   57%
  12 DeepSaros 2.3i x64 4c      3269   16   16   982   48%  3279   60%
  13 IvanHoe B47d x64 4c        3266   17   17   967   43%  3309   56%
  14 Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 1c    3262   20   20   711   61%  3193   47%
  15 IvanHoe B47f02 x64 4c      3260   16   16  1004   48%  3274   59%
  16 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 4c  3255   16   16  1012   46%  3275   55%
  17 Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 1c     3253   14   13  1575   54%  3227   48%
  18 Strelka 5.1 x64 1c         3243   17   17   921   56%  3210   53%
  19 Rybka 4.1 x64 1c           3193   17   17   888   48%  3204   53%
  20 Ivanhoe B46fa x64 1c       3190   27   27   359   46%  3214   57%
  21 Komodo 3.0 x64 1c          3188   14   14  1563   40%  3248   45%
  22 Ivanhoe B50kBf x64 1c      3186   20   20   637   47%  3206   58%
  23 Ivanhoe B46a x64 1c        3174   17   17   949   43%  3213   57%
  24 Naum 4.2 x64 4c            3174   18   18   898   36%  3258   46%
  25 Stockfish 111026 x64 1c    3173   18   18   861   44%  3208   49%

Individual statistics:

1 Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 12t  : 3424  254 (+114,=104,- 36), 65.4 %

Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c         : 114 (+ 61,= 41,- 12), 71.5 %
Houdini 2.0b Pro x64 4c       : 140 (+ 53,= 63,- 24), 60.4 %


For SCCT Auto232 Conditions:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/ratings/scct-auto232/scct-auto232-conditions/



Greetings,
Sedat


You are way inside the "noise window" here. You need tens of thousands of games, not a couple of hundred. This is likely the result of simple SMP non-determinism...
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Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:50 pm
      Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Ernest Bonnem Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:31 am
            Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:43 am
                  Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:06 pm
                        Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading enrico fagiuoli Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:26 pm
                        Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Ernest Bonnem Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:07 pm
                        Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading H.G.Muller Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:30 pm
                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Daniel Shawul Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:35 pm
                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading H.G.Muller Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:40 am
                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Daniel Shawul Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:23 am
                                                Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading H.G.Muller Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:57 am
                                                      Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Daniel Shawul Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:33 am
                  Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Ernest Bonnem Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:19 am
                        Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading M ANSARI Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:06 am
                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:14 am
                        Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:31 am
                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Ernest Bonnem Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:00 pm
                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Diepeveen Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:12 pm
                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Diepeveen Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:35 pm
                                                Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:03 am
                                                      Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Lejeune Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:46 am
                                                            Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:04 pm
                                                                  Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Lejeune Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:32 pm
                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:37 am
                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Ernest Bonnem Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:24 pm
                                                Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:14 pm
                                                      Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:51 pm
                                                            Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:27 pm
                                                                  Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:01 pm
                                                      Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Lejeune Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:10 am
                                                            Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:35 am
                                                            Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sujay Jagannathan Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:42 pm
                                                      Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Lejeune Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:00 pm
                                                            Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:56 pm
                                                                  Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Lejeune Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:45 am
                                                                  Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Lejeune Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:22 pm
                                                Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:51 pm
      Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Rodolfo Leoni Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:45 am
            Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:25 pm
                  Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Albert Silver Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:33 pm
                        Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Diepeveen Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:52 pm
                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:23 pm
                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Russell Murray Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:58 pm
                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Wylie Garvin Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:23 am
                                                Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:38 am
                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Diepeveen Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:25 pm
                  Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:04 pm
                        Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Rodolfo Leoni Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:53 pm
                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:36 am
                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Rodolfo Leoni Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:19 pm
                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:49 pm
                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sujay Jagannathan Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:36 pm
                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Flesher Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:00 pm
                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Diepeveen Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:27 pm
                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Lonnie Cook Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:44 pm
                        Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Carl Bicknell Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:06 am
                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:31 pm
                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Carl Bicknell Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:00 pm
                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:31 pm
                                                Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Carl Bicknell Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:54 pm
                                                      Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:42 pm
                                                            Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Flesher Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:25 am
                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Vincent Diepeveen Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:46 pm
                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:30 am
                                                Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:01 pm
                                                      Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:35 pm
                                                            Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:22 pm
                                                      Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:39 pm
                                                            Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:43 pm
                                                                  Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:21 am
                                                                        Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:31 pm
                                                                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:55 pm
                                                                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:52 pm
                                                                  Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:34 am
                                                                        Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:13 am
                                                                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:27 am
                                                                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:19 pm
                                                                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:25 pm
                                                                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:26 am
                                                                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:27 am
                                                                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:50 am
                                                                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:49 am
                                                                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:11 am
                                                                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:54 pm
                                                                              Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:23 pm
                                                                                    Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Sedat Canbaz Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:09 am
                                                                                          Re: Some Notes about Hyper-Threading Robert Hyatt Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:52 am
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