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Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast)
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Ferdinand Mosca



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PostPost subject: Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast)    Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:40 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote
Evert wrote:
George Tsavdaris wrote:

I have predicted in the start that Bihasa would finish with 47.5 out of 48 and i was too close, but watching the games i've seen that Bihasa had been endangered to lose many more games. One thing is certain. Programs play awfully the opening in 10x8 Chess. They literally suck! Very Happy

Isn't this the same for normal chess if you let engines play without opening book?
It doesn't really help of course if you don't play a variant yourself and aren't quite sure what the opening goals should be (or indeed, knowing what to put in an opening book if you were to make one). In Sjaak I have an evaluation component that disappears as pieces are developed that tries to encourage development of minor pieces, centralisation and castling. No idea how much this actually helps in practice though.

I would be very interested in seeing some more discussion/suggestions for improving engine opening play (without an opening book), but it's hard to find anything.

I believe after the minor pieces are developed and some pawn pushes to control couple of squares in the center and after castling - opening is done.
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Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:26 pm
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Graham Banks Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:08 pm
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:50 pm
            Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:38 pm
                  Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:57 am
            Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:55 pm
                  Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:24 pm
                        Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:50 am
                              Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:27 am
                                    Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:41 am
                                          Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:32 pm
                                                Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:31 am
                                                      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:52 am
                                                Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Daniel Shawul Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:10 pm
                                                      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:25 pm
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Ferdinand Mosca Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:49 am
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:18 pm
            Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Ferdinand Mosca Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:59 am
                  Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:39 am
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:35 pm
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:07 pm
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Martin Sedlak Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:45 am
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:51 am
            Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Martin Sedlak Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:55 am
                  Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:04 am
                        Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Martin Sedlak Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:13 am
                              Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) George Tsavdaris Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:14 am
                                    Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Martin Sedlak Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:37 am
                                    Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Martin Sedlak Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:55 am
                                          Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) George Tsavdaris Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:15 am
                                                Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Martin Sedlak Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:24 am
                        Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) George Tsavdaris Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:21 pm
                              Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:34 pm
                        Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:03 pm
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:41 am
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:42 pm
            Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:33 pm
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:12 am
            Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) George Tsavdaris Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:31 am
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:45 am
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) H.G.Muller Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:15 pm
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) George Tsavdaris Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:52 am
            Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:18 pm
                  Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Ferdinand Mosca Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:40 pm
                  Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) George Tsavdaris Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:59 pm
                        Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:19 pm
                        Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Ferdinand Mosca Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:44 am
            Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Ferdinand Mosca Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:32 pm
      Bihasa new 'Battle of the Goths' Champion! H.G.Muller Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:09 pm
            Re: Bihasa new 'Battle of the Goths' Champion! Reinhard Scharnagl Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:14 pm
            Re: Bihasa new 'Battle of the Goths' Champion! Martin Sedlak Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:54 pm
                  Re: Bihasa new 'Battle of the Goths' Champion! Ferdinand Mosca Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:04 am
                        Re: Bihasa new 'Battle of the Goths' Champion! Martin Sedlak Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:49 am
            Re: Bihasa new 'Battle of the Goths' Champion! Tony Hecker Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:31 am
            Re: Bihasa new 'Battle of the Goths' Champion! Ferdinand Mosca Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:50 am
      Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) George Tsavdaris Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:49 pm
            Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Evert Glebbeek Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:37 pm
            Me-Heretic 0.3 George Tsavdaris Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:26 pm
            Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) Tony Hecker Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:29 am
                  Re: Battle of the Goths 2012 (live broadcast) George Tsavdaris Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:12 am
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