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Dr.Wael Deeb



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PostPost subject: Re: Price a bit too high?    Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:22 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote
geots wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:
fern wrote:
80 bucks....Isn't too much?

fern


They also think it is too much and I guess that this is the reason that the price for hiarcs14 is only 79.95 bucks.

I believe that the price is more than 10$ only because people are not interested in ordering many copies and if they find somebody who is interested in
buying 100,000,000 copies of hiarcs14 for 1,000,000,000$ then they are going to make a deal with that person.




I checked CCRL 40/40 rating list for 1CPU 32-bit engines, and did not realize how far Hiarcs has fallen- or others have risen. An increase of 100 elo, which is doubtful- ie 90 is not 100- would still only put it with Rybka 3 and Stockfish 1.9.1! That's Stockfish 1.9.1. And it still trails 2 versions of Houdini, 3 versions of Komodo, 3 versions of Stockfish, 3 versions of Critter, 3 versions of RobboLito, around 25 or 30 versions of Ivanhoe, and Rybka 4.1. Some of these so old that no one even uses them any longer.

What this 100 point increase does, if it actually happens, is let Hiarcs pass its main competition of the last 15 years, Junior, Shredder and Fritz. And that is about it, unless you want to throw in Naum.

Other than the old standby, its "human-like" play, exactly what will it be advertised as and why you can't afford not to have it. For me, it's just not worth 3 or 4 times what Don and Larry asked for Komodo. I did not say I would or would not buy it, but I'm glad I'm not the one trying to sell it.


gts


Hi George,

In general you're making a lot of sense in your post Elo wise....

But still there is something that is called supporting the author and I am a big fan of it Very Happy
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New Hiarcs 14 Robert Flesher Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:46 pm
      Re: New Hiarcs 14 enrico fagiuoli Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:01 pm
            Re: New Hiarcs 14 Graham Banks Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:41 pm
                  Re: New Hiarcs 14 Thorsten Czub Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:09 pm
                        Re: New Hiarcs 14 Matthew R. Brades Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:36 pm
                        Re: New Hiarcs 14 Graham Banks Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:44 pm
                              Re: New Hiarcs 14 Thorsten Czub Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:03 pm
                  Re: New Hiarcs 14 David Shanholtzer Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:58 pm
      Re: New Hiarcs 14 Vincent Lejeune Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:18 pm
            Re: New Hiarcs 14 Mel Cooper Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:21 am
      Re: New Hiarcs 14 Julien MARCEL Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:01 pm
      80 bucks :-) fernando Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:00 pm
            Re: 80 bucks :-) Louis Zulli Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:04 pm
                  Re: 80 bucks :-) fernando Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:23 am
                        Re: 80 bucks :-) Ylich Carlos Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:27 pm
            Re: 80 bucks :-) Uri Blass Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:39 am
                  Re: Price a bit too high? George Speight Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:13 pm
                        Re: Price a bit too high? Dr.Wael Deeb Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:22 pm
                              Re: Price a bit too high? David Shanholtzer Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:25 pm
                              Re: Price a bit too high? George Speight Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:26 pm
                                    Re: Price a bit too high? Ylich Carlos Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:33 pm
                                    Re: Price a bit too high? fernando Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:49 pm
                                          Re: Price a bit too high? Uri Blass Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:21 pm
                                                Re: Price a bit too high? fernando Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:34 pm
                                                      Yes, a new GUI Dr. Axel Schumacher Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:41 am
                                                            Re: Yes, a new GUI Harvey Williamson Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:05 pm
                                                                  Re:Bravo Hiarcs team ! Ruxy Sylwyka Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:30 pm
                                                            Re: Yes, a new GUI fernando Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:44 pm
                                                                  Re: Yes, a new GUI Harvey Williamson Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:46 pm
                                                                        Re: Yes, a new GUI fernando Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:54 pm
                                                                        Re: Yes, a new GUI Julien MARCEL Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:58 pm
                                                                              Re: Yes, a new GUI fernando Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:33 am
                                                                                    Re: Yes, a new GUI Ernest Bonnem Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:28 am
                                                                        Re: Yes, a new GUI Berliner, Christian Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:57 am
                                                                              Re: Yes, a new GUI George Speight Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:48 pm
                                                                              Re: Yes, a new GUI Alex Brown Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:44 pm
                                                                                    Re: Yes, a new GUI George Speight Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:05 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI George Speight Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:17 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Harvey Williamson Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:23 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Terry McCracken Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:29 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Harvey Williamson Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:31 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Terry McCracken Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:34 pm
                                                                                    Re: Yes, a new GUI Thorsten Czub Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:42 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Harvey Williamson Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:47 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Thorsten Czub Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:28 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Harvey Williamson Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:30 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Berliner, Christian Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:23 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Vincent Diepeveen Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:30 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Harvey Williamson Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:54 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Berliner, Christian Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:24 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Graham Banks Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:29 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Berliner, Christian Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:35 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Thorsten Czub Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:45 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Terry McCracken Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:32 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Richard Vida Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:00 am
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Terry McCracken Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:52 am
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Thorsten Czub Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:40 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Vincent Diepeveen Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:03 pm
                                                                                          Re: Sorry Vincent , some are nonsenses ! Ruxy Sylwyka Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:56 am
                                                                                          Re: Sorry Vincent , some are nonsenses ! Ed Schroder Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:49 pm
                                                                                          Re: Sorry Vincent , some are nonsenses ! Ruxy Sylwyka Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:00 pm
                                                                                          Re: Sorry Vincent , some are nonsenses ! Vincent Diepeveen Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:47 pm
                                                                                          Re: Sorry Vincent , some are nonsenses ! Seb Dragulic Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:55 pm
                                                                                          Re: Sorry Vincent , some are nonsenses ! Vincent Diepeveen Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:13 pm
                                                                                          Re: Sorry Vincent , some are nonsenses ! Seb Dragulic Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:29 pm
                                                                                          Re: Sorry Vincent , some are nonsenses ! Vincent Diepeveen Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:42 pm
                                                                                          Re: Yes, a new GUI Seb Dragulic Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:07 pm
                                                                              Re: Yes, a new GUI Terry McCracken Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:15 pm
                                                                                    Re: Yes, a new GUI Dr.Wael Deeb Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:18 pm
                                                                              Re: Yes, a new GUI S.Taylor Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:02 am
                                                                  Re: Yes, a new GUI Maurizio Maglio Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:02 pm
                                                      Re: Price a bit too high? Derek Jones Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:04 pm
                                    Re: Price a bit too high? Dr.Wael Deeb Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:30 pm
                                          Re: Price a bit too high? Robert F. Kamerer Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:34 pm
                                                Re: Price a bit too high? Dr.Wael Deeb Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:41 pm
                                    Re:A bit of patience , Maestro George - please ! Ruxy Sylwyka Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:36 am
                        Re: Price a bit too high? S.Taylor Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:41 am
                              Re: Price a bit too high? Norm Pollock Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:47 am
                                    Re: Price a bit too high? Pedro Castro Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:15 am
            Re: 80 bucks :-) Tony Mokonen Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:50 am
                  Re: 80 bucks :-) Dr.Wael Deeb Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:43 pm
                        Re: 80 bucks :-) fernando Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:47 pm
      Re: New Hiarcs 14 Teodoriu Catalin Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:04 pm
      Re: New Hiarcs 14 Teodoriu Catalin Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:02 pm
      Re: New Hiarcs 14 John M. Thompson Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:07 pm
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