Dragulic wrote:Sylwy wrote:Some are Russians , some Eastern-Europeans , a lot of Central (
) and West Europeans. They are also dudes from South Africa, America , South America & so on ! Be attentive to
the & so on !
It means, USA and UK. Silvain, Carol send you love.
diep wrote:psychopaths
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Had they done this in somewhere else, they would've been finished with 50 courtcases.
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Referring suddenly to all sorts of dudes showing up at CCC. That proces has continued up until today...... we see suddenly postings from guys i've never heard from before, who suddenly 'know' what specific engines are doing, which is very weird as normally spoken it takes 10+ years to get some expertise in this field. If you aren't busy with it fulltime, no chance you can know all this.
Small exaggerations maybe, but not gross-errors. As a patzer, I know nothing about nobodies and no programs.
Dear Vincent Sincerity, I thank you for detailed replies about clusterbox in the other topic (muxecoid,
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42987)
diep wrote:Some of the psychopaths who had more information thanks to their job than the above mentionned programmers, they thought: "heh if i grab this code, paid by government no one cares, let's add 2 bytes then i can get bragging rights and attention and maybe cash". That's what happened.
While you are using the psychopaths terminology in an amusing non-scientific way, unfortunately some apparent anonymous psychopath (in the scientific sense) is threatening me, via abusive PM here in talkchess, with imply physical violence against specified parts of my anatomy.
Look there really is a number of psychopatic types now into computerchess, there was less in the past there - the reason is simply - they can get nowhere else a job except at the government and they go for the money. You'll find bunches of them at todays computertrading as well - as a matter of fact i can give examples from one of the companies i worked which serves amongst others some major banks (and banks as you know are so huge usually that there is little difference in the internal workings to how governments function). These guys habit is to cut'n paste code illegal and just do it like that - someone else later on may solve the problem, if it ever gets out. They're professional in cut'n pasting codes in the grey area of legality and illegal forms of engineering; i always try to stay out of that grey area and so do many of the more experienced computer chess programmers - they have their own code.
But what do all sorts of new projects share?
RIGHT - either if you analyze it well they cut'n pasted code somewhere, usually illegal and they just try to get awway with it and don't care. In normal businesslife you don't do that - it's too risky and you risk your company getting sued to bankrupsy.
It's especially the (semi-)government guys that do this. Psychopaths.
My tip would be to install skype and start chat using microphone and webcam, though microphone is enough, to a bunch of the 'new' programmers here. If they dare to show a voice that is. Just do it. I spoke to a number - and i don't want to quote names on who is what or when, that is something i not quickly would do. Yet that's the case.
I can give an example of a psychopath, without quoting his name, but let's do that in some later message not today. And you'll wonder after i told the truth and nothing but the truth, why the dude is in chessprogramming...
As for the received messages you got.
Oh well that's easy. That has to be Chris. Actually it might be wise for some here to not meet Chris in a dark alley. One of the reasons for that is the big savings of the UK onto about everything, including medicines. The other reason is that Chris forgot to take those cheaper medicines.
I have never sent this person any PM or message. It is outrage! Leave aside threat of my being banned, false-accused, they are minorities/trivialities, but physical abuse is to be taken serious when delivered by anonym.
Don't worry, if everything what people throw out on the net would be taken serious, then half the nation ends up in prisons.
Note that if there is lots of nazi talk in the statements you get, that Rolf is involved - if he still lives (as he already was old 10 years ago).
This all can be caused only because my study shows that Mr Vas Rajlich is sui generis innocent, and that Mr Hyatt, Mr Levy and (others) are "mistaken" (euphem.).
To make such physical threats is against Canadian law.
speaking of Canada, did Peter Skinner already get locked up? I remember how he was banned from ICC some years ago because he sold computers, yet those computers where people paid for, they never arrived...
What you speak about is just words. There is 1 golden rule there.
Just ignore the dudes. Some professors here never learned that, and wouldn't ever claim that to be true.
The thing is, that there is a bunch of things going on behind our backs in computerchess. People get paid to do XYZ without revealing what they did do. But one should never take that personal.
You'd be amazed to learn how much some of the guys who spit out all those weirdo lines actually DO KNOW about that something happens to XYZ.
I can give you an entire list of suspected activities; for example some engines that for years hardly progressed (crafty huh?) and then BOOM suddenly in systematic manner progresses, thanks to some guys who help out Bob now. But i'm not sure whether Bob understands how much hard work that is. So at the moment that the gap between the open source and commercial engines couldn't be bigger, around start 2007, then BOOM , seemingly big effort gets done by many unknown people, to get those strong once again.
However, it's quite common for professors to progress in that manner, so nothing suspected there - yet if you look carefully at the lineup - i really never much had a problem with Chris Whittington nor Rolf.
For example Chris once sent me a contract proposal around end 90s, if i remember welll around 1997.
Young Diepeveen found the contract great, except for 1 line in the contract somewhere. Just that one sentence. "the distributor, in order to integrate the source code, gets the Diep source code". I didn't like that sentence.
Shipped a mail to Chris about that, and then received an email back with all kind of cursing words and new English words i never had seen before. I do realize that if i put out that email ever to the net, that i'm banned forever, as no one will believe it.
Actually i had a similar incident with Friedel.
He also called me all kind of new English words and sayings, as well as curses i never heard of. That simply over e-mail.
These guys really take a risk you know. You typically see in documentaries at television how corrupt gangsters, who know how to bribe projectleaders and other people, how they know how to get away with things.
Of course my revenge was sweet towards Friedel some years ago when i couldn't shake his hands in the 2000 world champs, as i had to be careful watching my wallet in my pocket to not get stolen by a pickpocket, as described in my world champs 2000 report.
So you never know whom actually shipped you the insults. Is it a British native, or could it be someone who doesn't drive at the wrong side of the road?
The lesson you should learn is that if people can ship things anonymously, they basically are afraid for their own well being, so one shouldn't worry about that.
Always ignore anonymous dudes, except if there are other political reasons to respond to it.
Don't worry about it and carry on, and don't reply. You give the dudes a forum here to listen to!
More important, against US law, which is the true jurisdiction and location. I am drafting a notification for Police by online complaint, it is easy now at fbi.gov. I may have to resume corresponding with you only by emails. I want computer chess help, not threat against my person. Sad place.
No critique to the moderation, I have understood they are helpless given the Hierarchical Consideration. I now consider if I can continue here with personal safety. Decembrists have now Marchista.
Writing all kind of threats to the national security, you definitly should do in a computerchess forum. Then you know with 100% sureness you get caught
So don't worry about it
