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Jorge Pichard



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PostPost subject: Re: Yonenaga is still a very high Shogi player..............    Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:42 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

[quote="mschribr"]
pichy wrote:

Where can I wath the live Shogi Championship, they did not even posted the games played Machine vs Human back in January in Youtuve.com

PS: Fujitsu is using a system twice faster and with an improved Bonkras engine, in which if the current champion is only a few Elo or Rank higher then the Ex Champion Yonenaga regardless of his age, it would be wise to assume that Bonkras is playing at the level of the Champion if NOTvery close. Wink

Which live Shogi Championship are you looking for? Takodori's Entrance to Shogi World has a link to the game Bonkras played with Yonenaga on January 14, 2012. The link is at Bonkras beat Yonenaga in 113 moves, http://shogi.typepad.jp/eweblog/2012/01/bonkras-beat-yonenaga-in-113-moves.html
The current champion is not a few Elo and not few Rank higher then the Ex Champion Yonenaga. The Ex Champion Yonenaga is not even a professional (grandmaster) player. To make this clear, compare the current fide champion Anand to the 1993 fide champion Karpov. I am not trying to knock down Karpov. But Karpov at 60 has not been active for years. I think if Karpov were active today, he would not be rated a GM today. Either way Karpov today is not in the same league as Anand. The same with 1993 Meijin Yonenaga. If Yonenaga were playing today, he would not be rated professional (grandmaster) player. Yonenaga today is not in the same league as Moriuchi, the current Meijin.[/quote

How much higher do you guess Yonenaga Kunio is over amateurs Kosaku and Shinoda? I believe that Yonenaga is still considered higher than Shimizu, Kosaku and Shinoda. If you are interested in this topic, please check the following page from time to time which Yonenaga maintains by himself.

http://www.yonenaga.net/taisenroku.html
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Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NOW... Jorge Pichard Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:18 pm
      Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Tue May 01, 2012 4:21 pm
            Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Jorge Pichard Tue May 01, 2012 4:59 pm
                  Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Dan Honeycutt Tue May 01, 2012 6:10 pm
                  Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Tue May 01, 2012 7:07 pm
                        Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Jorge Pichard Tue May 01, 2012 7:24 pm
                              Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Tue May 01, 2012 8:57 pm
                                    Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Jorge Pichard Tue May 01, 2012 9:16 pm
                                    Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Jorge Pichard Tue May 01, 2012 9:17 pm
                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Tue May 01, 2012 9:38 pm
                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Tue May 01, 2012 9:47 pm
                                                Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Jorge Pichard Tue May 01, 2012 10:06 pm
                                                      Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Tue May 01, 2012 10:44 pm
                                                      Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Sun May 06, 2012 5:30 pm
                                                            Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Larry Kaufman Sun May 06, 2012 6:46 pm
                                                                  Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Sun May 06, 2012 7:45 pm
                                                                        Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Larry Kaufman Sun May 06, 2012 7:56 pm
                                                                              Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Sun May 06, 2012 9:45 pm
                                                                                    Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Larry Kaufman Sun May 06, 2012 10:11 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Sun May 06, 2012 11:00 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Larry Kaufman Sun May 06, 2012 11:10 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Jorge Pichard Mon May 07, 2012 12:44 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Larry Kaufman Mon May 07, 2012 1:57 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Mon May 07, 2012 2:51 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Larry Kaufman Mon May 07, 2012 3:28 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Mon May 07, 2012 3:56 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO H.G.Muller Mon May 07, 2012 9:16 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Jorge Pichard Mon May 07, 2012 10:39 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO H.G.Muller Mon May 07, 2012 11:00 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO H.G.Muller Mon May 07, 2012 11:51 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Larry Kaufman Mon May 07, 2012 4:00 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO H.G.Muller Mon May 07, 2012 4:52 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Jorge Pichard Mon May 07, 2012 8:51 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO H.G.Muller Mon May 07, 2012 9:01 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry are you installing GPSUSI correctly? Jorge Pichard Mon May 07, 2012 10:07 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry are you installing GPSUSI correctly? Larry Kaufman Tue May 08, 2012 12:15 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry are you installing GPSUSI correctly? Larry Kaufman Tue May 08, 2012 12:22 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry what version of your GPSShogi you installed? Jorge Pichard Tue May 08, 2012 2:05 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry what version of your GPSShogi you installed? Larry Kaufman Tue May 08, 2012 2:21 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry you can play with this Shogi Server NOW! Jorge Pichard Tue May 08, 2012 2:31 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry you can play with this Shogi Server NOW! Bernhard Maerz Tue May 08, 2012 11:29 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry you can play with this Shogi Server NOW! Jorge Pichard Tue May 08, 2012 1:55 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry what version of your GPSShogi you installed? Jorge Pichard Tue May 08, 2012 2:59 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry what version of your GPSShogi you installed? H.G.Muller Tue May 08, 2012 7:58 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry , I believe that I found your problem! Jorge Pichard Tue May 08, 2012 4:21 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry , I believe that I found your problem! H.G.Muller Tue May 08, 2012 5:32 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry , I believe that I found your problem! Jorge Pichard Tue May 08, 2012 5:56 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry , I believe that I found your problem! H.G.Muller Wed May 09, 2012 8:19 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry this is what I did ............................... Jorge Pichard Thu May 10, 2012 1:10 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry this is what I did ............................... H.G.Muller Thu May 10, 2012 6:40 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry this is what I did ............................... Bernhard Maerz Thu May 10, 2012 6:54 am
                                                                                          Re: Larry this is what I did ............................... H.G.Muller Thu May 10, 2012 10:05 am
                                                                                          Re: How strong is your sdk09s Shogi engine? Jorge Pichard Thu May 10, 2012 11:17 am
                                                                                          Re: How strong is your sdk09s Shogi engine? H.G.Muller Thu May 10, 2012 11:33 am
                                                                                          Re: How strong is your sdk09s Shogi engine? Bernhard Maerz Thu May 10, 2012 12:28 pm
                                                                                          Re: How strong is your sdk09s Shogi engine? H.G.Muller Thu May 10, 2012 12:50 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Jorge Pichard Mon May 07, 2012 5:48 pm
                                                                                          Re: Larry Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NOW Jorge Pichard Thu May 10, 2012 11:54 pm
                                                                                          Re: Polish amateur first to beat professional shogi player Jorge Pichard Mon May 21, 2012 12:22 am
                        Re: Yonenaga is still a very high Shogi player.............. Jorge Pichard Mon May 07, 2012 11:42 pm
                              Re: Yonenaga is still a very high Shogi player.............. Mark Schreiber Tue May 08, 2012 3:08 pm
                                    Re: Yonenaga is still a very high Shogi player.............. Jorge Pichard Tue May 08, 2012 3:21 pm
      Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Larry Kaufman Thu May 03, 2012 12:20 am
            Re: Larry here are some games Mr. Habu Vs GPS-Shogi Jorge Pichard Thu May 03, 2012 3:26 pm
                  Re: Larry here are some games Mr. Habu Vs GPS-Shogi Mark Schreiber Fri May 04, 2012 7:04 pm
            Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Mark Schreiber Fri May 04, 2012 6:44 pm
                  Re: Larry I believe that Bonkras can beat the Shogi Champ NO Larry Kaufman Fri May 04, 2012 9:34 pm
      Links to computer shogi forums Graham Banks Fri May 04, 2012 7:28 pm
            Re: Links to computer shogi forums Jorge Pichard Sat May 05, 2012 7:33 am
                  Re: I prefer the Chess Thinkers Forum Jorge Pichard Sat May 05, 2012 7:34 am
                        Re: Links to computer shogi forums Graham Banks Sat May 05, 2012 7:37 am
                        Re: I prefer the Chess Thinkers Forum Jorge Pichard Sat May 05, 2012 1:36 pm
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