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CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction
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Adam Hair



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PostPost subject: Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction    Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:35 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote
mar wrote:
Adam Hair wrote:
What if we make the rating for the top engine equal 0 Elo, so that the ratings are such that the rating of each engine directly indicates how many Elo it is behind the leading program?

That's what I proposed to Werner when I read about CEGT renormalization! It really doesn't matter. Elo is relative as we all know.
Just imagine you are an engine author and you want to give the users a rough elo estimate (the first question authors get from users when they release their engine, first public version).
People simply like absolute numbers like 2400, 2500 etc. And they tend to compare that to FIDE ratings etc.
Of course the author could state that his engine is n elo stronger/weaker than reference engine X.
Another thing is that you are trying hard to break a certain elo barrier, say 2700. And suddenly all top rating lists renormalize and drop at least 100 elo.
C'mon, more sounds better Wink Just make us programmers happy to have a stable absolute RL. What if someone decides next month to renormalize again? I used to say nn CEGT elo/nn CCRL elo.
Now I can't do that anymore Laughing


The very least we could so is add Elo, not take it away Smile
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CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Graham Banks Tue May 15, 2012 5:07 am
      Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Charles Roberson Wed May 16, 2012 1:30 am
            Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Graham Banks Wed May 16, 2012 1:35 am
      Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Adam Hair Wed May 16, 2012 1:39 pm
            Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Martin Sedlak Wed May 16, 2012 2:10 pm
                  Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Adam Hair Wed May 16, 2012 6:35 pm
            Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Dan Honeycutt Wed May 16, 2012 2:37 pm
                  Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Adam Hair Wed May 16, 2012 6:38 pm
            Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Mincho Georgiev Wed May 16, 2012 2:42 pm
                  Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Adam Hair Wed May 16, 2012 7:56 pm
                        Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Mincho Georgiev Thu May 17, 2012 6:00 am
                              Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Adam Hair Thu May 17, 2012 11:18 am
            Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Charles Roberson Wed May 16, 2012 2:44 pm
                  Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Mincho Georgiev Wed May 16, 2012 2:49 pm
                  Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Adam Hair Wed May 16, 2012 7:53 pm
            Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Miguel A. Ballicora Wed May 16, 2012 3:54 pm
                  Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Charles Roberson Wed May 16, 2012 6:13 pm
                  Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Adam Hair Wed May 16, 2012 8:53 pm
            Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Ingo Bauer Wed May 16, 2012 5:29 pm
                  Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Charles Roberson Wed May 16, 2012 6:02 pm
                        Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Ingo Bauer Wed May 16, 2012 6:06 pm
                              Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Mark Loftus Thu May 17, 2012 4:08 pm
                                    Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Ingo Bauer Thu May 17, 2012 4:58 pm
      Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Dimitri Yasenko Wed May 16, 2012 2:23 pm
      Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Jorge Pichard Mon May 28, 2012 10:42 am
            Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Sven Schüle Mon May 28, 2012 12:57 pm
                  Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Sedat Canbaz Mon May 28, 2012 1:15 pm
                        Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Sedat Canbaz Tue May 29, 2012 12:28 am
      Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Piotr Cichy Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:46 pm
            Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Jorge Pichard Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:18 pm
                  Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Adam Hair Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:50 pm
                        Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Jorge Pichard Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:59 pm
                              Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Adam Hair Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:31 pm
                                    Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Piotr Cichy Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:02 pm
                                          Re: CCRL live lists with 100 Elo reduction Adam Hair Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:41 pm
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