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Shivkumar Shivaji



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PostPost subject: Re:Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone.....................    Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:59 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote
pichy wrote:
shiv wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:
pichy wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:
pichy wrote:
Laskos wrote:
Uri wrote:
I'm sure Nakamura could still easily defeat Deep Rybka 4.1 running on my old 4-core (not i7) computer.

Bu I don't think he has any chance against the Cimiotti cluster which has more than 400 Xeon processors now.


Yes, he would destroy an 8-core Rybka, but would marginally lose to a 12-core one.

Kai


Based on what fact do you support that GM Nakamura can destroy an 8-Core Rybka ? We don't even know what computer were used for these youtube videos, and on one of those game versus another GM the f7 pawn was given by the Rybka operator:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbAzeDxxGuQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuMIBoZsJ2o


I woukd bet that my iPhone would win a match v any GM. The days are gone of Human v comp. Hiarcs on pocket pc has played in 2 GM tournaments. It got GM norms in both and a 2931 rating. That was 2 years ago. The latest iPhone is dual core and faster.


Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone, imagine what GM Nakamura could do. So far after 120 games I have reached a 2355 rating versus Hiarcs Rolling Eyes


[Site "Pichy-PC"]
[Date "2012.05.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "You"]
[WhiteElo "2355"]
[Black "HIARCS"]
[BlackElo "2900"]
[Result "1/2"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. f4 e5 7. Nf3 Nbd7 8. Bc4
b5 9. fxe5 bxc4 10. exf6 Nxf6 11. Qd4 Be7 12. Bf4 Bb7 13. O-O-O O-O 14. Rhe1
Re8 15. Qxc4 Rc8 16. Qd4 Qa5 17. Kb1 Red8 18. Qd2 Rxc3 19. Qxc3 Qxc3 20. bxc3
Nxe4 21. Rd3 Rc8 22. h3 f5 23. Nd2 Kf7 24. Nxe4 Bxe4 25. Bxd6 Bf6 26. Rdd1 Bxg2
27. Be5 Bxe5 28. Rxe5 Bxh3 29. Re3 Bg4 30. Rd7+ Kf6 31. Rd6+ Kf7 32. Rd7+ Kf6
33. Rd6+ Kf7 Draw by 3 repetition




Sent from my iPhone


Now try it again with ponder on and it not set to play at 1800 elo.

ps. and no takebacks.You also have to not lose on time.


I too have a similar performance against Hiarcs. My given elo by Hiarcs on the iphone is >2400, >2500, or even >2600 depending on my form. My actual elo is around 2300 Fide.

I will try turning ponder on. I don't set the elo to 1800 or any level. I leave it at Hiarcs highest level.

On the iphone, upgrading to 4S wont help that much as Hiarcs does not yet use dual core, right? I am quite happy with the strength of Hiarcs on the iphone 4. While it does not drastically beat me in every game, its far more motivating to play against it vs a desktop program.

Maybe to unleash the 2800+ strength, I should play classical time control games instead of G/10 like I usually do? I can certainly believe that.


Can you post one of your game at time control 30 minutes, I will play another game trying to close the position to see how Hiarcs handle it. Hiarcs might try some stupid moves not knowing how to break the pawn formation, I will see in my next game. Wink


I will play longer games such as G/30 vs it for practice at some point. Here is a win that I beat it in G/5 or G/10 (dont even recall time control):

I am reflecting on Harvey's comment. I feel that if Hiarcs is to play at 2700 level in G/10, contempt values need to change for sure. It feels little too solid for me on the iphone. I can definitely get far more than 2 draws out of many games. However, I think tweaking the contempt settings and improving the opening book (the game I won was definitely a book fail) can make it harder and harder for humans to score points.

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.01.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "You"]
[WhiteElo "2478"]
[Black "HIARCS"]
[BlackElo "2875"]
[Result "*"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 Qb6 7. Nb3 e6 8.
Bd3 Be7 9. O-O O-O 10. Be3 Qc7 11. f4 a6 12. Qf3 Rb8 13. Qh3 b5 14. g4 e5 15.
f5 h6 16. g5 hxg5 17. Bxg5 Nb4 18. Qh4 Nxd3 19. cxd3 Qb6+ 20. Kh1 Rd8 21. Rf3
Bxf5 22. Rxf5 d5 23. Rg1 Rd6 24. Rxf6 Bxf6 25. Nxd5 Bxg5 26. Qxg5 Rg6 27. Ne7+
Kh7 28. Nxg6 fxg6 29. Qxe5 Rc8 30. d4 Qf6 31. Qxf6 gxf6 32. Rg2 g5 33. Rd2 Kg6
34. Kg2 Kf7 35. Kf3 Ke7 36. h4 gxh4 37. Rh2 Rh8 38. Rh3 Kd6 39. Kf4 Rc8 40. Rh2
h3 41. Kf5 Rg8 42. Kxf6 Rg2 43. Rxh3 Rxb2 44. e5+ Kd5 45. Rf3 Rxa2 46. Ke7 a5
47. e6 a4 48. Nc5 Re2 49. Kd7 Kxd4 50. Nd3 Rd2 51. e7 Re2 52. e8=Q Rxe8 53.
Kxe8 Kc3 54. Kd7 a3 55. Kc6 b4 1-0
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                                                                                    Re:Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone..................... Shivkumar Shivaji Wed May 23, 2012 11:03 pm
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                                                                  Re:Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone..................... Jorge Pichard Sat May 19, 2012 8:59 pm
                                                                        Re:Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone..................... Harvey Williamson Sat May 19, 2012 9:11 pm
                                                                              Re:Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone..................... Jorge Pichard Sun May 20, 2012 12:15 am
                                                                                    Re:Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone..................... M ANSARI Sun May 20, 2012 8:04 am
                                                                                    Re:Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone..................... Uri Blass Sun May 20, 2012 8:28 am
                                                                                          Re:Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone..................... Guenther Simon Sun May 20, 2012 9:04 am
                                                                                          Re:Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone..................... Jorge Pichard Sun May 20, 2012 10:27 am
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                                                                                          Re:Here is my game versus Hiarcs Iphone..................... Don Dailey Thu May 24, 2012 3:48 pm
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