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Maurizio Maglio



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PostPost subject: Re: Anand retains World Champion crown    Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:21 am Reply to topic Reply with quote
Uri Blass wrote:
MM wrote:
Laskos wrote:
MM wrote:
Mike S. wrote:
YAWNČ Mr. Green

I guess this was the most boring WCh ever. Let's forget it fast...



The times of Bobby Fischer and Garry Kasparov won't never return.
In the era of the computers, there are a huge number of Gm that are Gm only for the opening preparation and some general chess knowledge.

I would be curious to see them playing at chess960 to see how good they would be without their opening home preparation.



Every GM is very strong in tactics and end-games, I don't know what you are talking about "only openings". I bet a chess960 champion would be a strong GM like in standard chess, and not some unknown player.

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I don't think it is a problem of formula.

I think it is a problem of players.

I think only Carlsen and Kramnik can be someway compared with the generation of Petrosjan, Spassky, Geller, Botvinnik, Bronstein, Stein, Tal and...Bobby Fischer.

Best Regards


Bobby Fischer was the youngest Gm at his time at 15 years old.

Now there are kids that become Gm at 12,13 or 14 years old.

Are they stronger than Fischer? They become GM because they study and memorize opening lines thanks to the computers and make training with the computers.

You refer to my previous post but if you look well i say a pretty obvious thing.

Anyway you said that every GM is very strong in tactics and endgames.

I don't agree. There are some Gms that are not strong in tactics because they are positional players and probably there is a huge number of IM or FM that tactically could beat them. For example, Smyslov wasn't a great tactician but he was a great positional player and a superb endgame player.

As regards ''only opening'' i simply meant that many Gms are GMs and not simply IM or FM thanks to the huge opening preparation, it is a question of study.

I didn't say that without the opening preparation they would be relatively weak.

As regards chess960, i agree with you but i said another thing: i said that in my opinion many gms would have a lot of troubles to play at chess960 because their opening knowledge would be useless and many more talented and/or tactical players could beat them.

Best Regards


I believe that
The 14 years old of today are stronger than fischer at the same age thanks to training with computers
but
I do not think that it is mainly result of memorizing opening lines.

If it is the case it is easy to beat them with white by lines like 1.a4
or 1.e4 c5 2.a4

They probably do not remember theory after these lines and need to think and if they can win with black then it is thanks to chess knowledge that is not memorizing lines.

I do not believe that many GM are going to have a trouble to beat FM players in FRC.

Maybe some FM's are better today because they have more experience in FRC and GM are not used to the castling rules but if you give both GM's and FM's some months to train for a serious match then I fully expect the GM's to win.

If some sponsor makes 20 matchs of 12 games(total 240 games) for good money between 20 GM's and 20 FM's in FRC then I expect at least 90% of the GM's to win and I expect the GM's to score at least 160 out of 240.


Hi Uri,

the chess knowledge is itself memorizing. It can regard the opening, the middlegame or the endgame.

Talent is another thing. Talent is imagination, smartness, speed and precision in calculation.

Many Gm's are more talented than IM and FM but not all. Study has become very important.

Best Regards
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Anand retains World Champion crown Varun Wed May 30, 2012 12:51 pm
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            Re: Anand retains World Champion crown Maurizio Maglio Wed May 30, 2012 9:00 pm
                  Re: Anand retains World Champion crown Kai Laskos Wed May 30, 2012 9:20 pm
                        Re: Anand retains World Champion crown Maurizio Maglio Wed May 30, 2012 9:44 pm
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                                    Re: Anand retains World Champion crown Maurizio Maglio Thu May 31, 2012 8:47 am
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