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Daniel Shawul
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Post subject: ignored idea here Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:00 pm |
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It seems to me that my idea to mix only those operators that don't change distribution (sub,add and xor) could work and it would be cheaper than a multiply that will also skew the distribution. I belive that also causes clustering in hash tables. Maybe I missed something obvious, but I need a comment anyway...
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(key1[p1] + key2[sq1]) ^ (key1[p2] + key2[sq2]) ^ ....
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The other variation is
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(key1[p1] ^ key2[sq2]) + (key1[p2] ^ key2[sq2]) + ....
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What reinhard proposed also seem to be a variation of this idea only that one operator XOR is used for hashing a piece_on_square and also to get the final position.
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key(p, row, col) = k(p,row) ^ k(p,col)
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One could do the similar things like I did
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(k(p1,r1) ^ k(p1,c1)) + (k(p2,r2) ^ k(p2,c2)) ...
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And the other variation as well. Tables could be smaller with this one.
The keys could be 128 bits if that is needed.
Thoughts? _________________ https://sites.google.com/site/dshawul/
https://github.com/dshawul
Last edited by Daniel Shawul on Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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