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How about we settle the WCCC argument?
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Miguel A. Ballicora



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PostPost subject: Re: How about we settle the WCCC argument?    Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:03 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote
chrisw wrote:
michiguel wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:
chrisw wrote:
michiguel wrote:
Jeroen wrote:
It appears that the real reason for this tournament is slightly different:

The whole point of the tournament is to prove how utterly useless it is, and what a waste of time it will be. Nothing more. The reason the ICGA has good tournament rules (And I try to follow the same rules with the CCT) is because it weeds out the crap. I'm out to prove that with 90 derivatives entering, it will become what everyone bitches about. A hardware/book war. Nothing more.

But you are making a huge mistake in thinking that this is a waste of time and 'utterly useless'. People want to see:

A) the strongest programs
B) the best hardware
C) the best books

Remember Freestyle? That was a HUGE success. And in Freestyle 90%-100% of the players used Rybka. Basically you are organising a Freestyle tournament with more variety and the 'engine only' option!


You are quoting someone who misquote Peter. He did not say that. Someone else did it sarcastically. Please, people, make sure the quotes are correct, otherwise this turns into a mess. I will encourage the person who started the misquote to fix the problem.

Miguel


Would the moderators please investigate this "misquote" to determine if (a) it was deliberate and (b) specifically placed onto this forum and (c) malicious and, if this is found to be the case, take strongest possible action against the perpetrator?


The quote is 100% accurate. The moderators should check before acting.


The misquote was referred to Robert, who quoted Peter, replying to you Harvey. In your post, you seemed to quote Peter out of thin air and it was not clear what it was. It looked sarcastic to me, but I am nobody to judge that. I did not touch your post, but I made a comment on Robert's post. So, I did not "act" on your message, and that is the main purpose of my yet another clarification. If Peter is fine with you posting a private message, we have nothing to say. EDIT: But it is not clear this is the case.

Miguel


Miguel,

Will moderators please investigate the truth or otherwise of the following apparent facts:

a) HW has quoted without permission a PM
b) The PM quote was malicious with intent to disrupt or destroy a tournament in the process of being organised on talkchess
c) the motivation for this disruption is rendered more serious by virtue of the commercial nature of the organisation HW represents and its possession of a WCC title from a competing tournament

If you find all or some of the above to be true, I would urge you to consider the action to be a very serious attack on democratic activities on this forum and to impose appropriate and severe penalties on the perpetrator.


I have dealt privately with the parts. I do not believe they will become friends, but as far as I understand, they requirements and actions should have satisfied each other, already. I hope.

I think we can move on now, avoid distractions, and let the flow of the thread going.

Miguel
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How about we settle the WCCC argument? Peter Skinner Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:28 pm
      Re: How about we settle the WCCC argument? Ian Osgood Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:41 am
            Re: How about we settle the WCCC argument? Peter Skinner Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:09 am
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                                    Re: How about we settle the WCCC argument? Ed Schroder Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:25 pm
                                          Re: How about we settle the WCCC argument? Gabriel LEPERLIER Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:52 pm
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                                                      Re: How about we settle the WCCC argument? Gabriel LEPERLIER Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:15 pm
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