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Chris Whittington



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PostPost subject: Re: How about we settle the WCCC argument?    Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:37 am Reply to topic Reply with quote
Houdini wrote:
hgm wrote:
Obviously an invitation-only tourney can never be called a 'World Championship'. And if you are excluding the strongest Chess entities in the World by artificial hardware limitations, you could never call it a championship for 'computer Chess'. You might as well require that the program source is not larger than 5KB, to make sure that a certain engine becomes 'World Champion'!

To me it sounds merely like a 'consumer test for middle-game engines'. As there already have been dozens before...

It doesn't need to be an "invitation-only" tournament. Qualifiers or group stages are possible - like in football, Euro 2012.

There is nothing "artificial" about a hardware limitation, you'll find that in most sports. For example Formula 1 limits the hardware to 2400 cc engines: "The engines had to be 90° V8 of 2.4 litres maximum capacity with a 98 mm maximum circular bore, which imply a 39.7 mm minimum stroke. They had to have two circular inlet and exhaust valves per cylinder, be normally aspirated and have a 95 kg (209 lb) minimum weight."
The same in cycling, there are strict limits on the bicycles used.

The goal is the same everywhere: give all participants equal opportunity, and avoid pointless, high-cost hardware wars.

Robert


yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody believes your reasoning here Wink

why don't you just suggest to Vas that he enters Rybka in two forms, firstly the giant cluster and secondly on some hardware that roughly parallels yours? The spectators and users ought to be bright enough to work out the consequences of the results ....
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How about we settle the WCCC argument? Peter Skinner Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:28 pm
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