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S.Taylor
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by S.Taylor » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:14 pm
Jack Lad wrote: Masterbaiter wrote: Kd1 ... it is possible I will lose this position but then it would not be fun if we were not to mix it up after the McMad gambit!!!
[d] r1b1kbnr/1p1p1p2/p3pq1p/2p4Q/3nPP2/1PN4N/PB1P2PP/R2K1B1R w kq - 2 11
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g5 3. Nxg5 e6 4. Qh5 Qf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. f4 Nc6 7. b3 h6 8. Nh3 Nd4 9. Bb2 Nxc2+ 10. Kd1 Nd4[/pgn]
I think Nd4 was very wise.
Maybe it was elementary for those looking at a computer.
White may consider Ne2 on next move. (but again, if computer will dispute that, then i trust the computer. I am more likely to do the hard work of checking it out with my own head, if i was playing in an actual game over the board in a tournament).
I must admit, the whole position, after this pawn acceptance on g5, is very provocative for inducing white to throw in some material or other goods, to get the attack going, but prematurely.
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by S.Taylor » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:38 pm
Masterbaiter wrote: In compensation for the weak pawns white has the open files and his pawns also cover all the valuable centre squares.
I don't think any of this is the issue here.
Atleast it depends on which cause of action we are trying to take, as white.
Jack Lad
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by Jack Lad » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:01 pm
Masterbaiter wrote: Na4
[d] r1b1kbnr/1p1p1pq1/p3p2p/2p4Q/N2nPP2/1P5N/PB1P2PP/R2K1B1R w kq - 4 12
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g5 3. Nxg5 e6 4. Qh5 Qf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. f4 Nc6 7. b3 h6 8. Nh3 Nd4 9. Bb2 Nxc2+ 10. Kd1 Nd4 11. Na4 Qg7[/pgn]
Jack Lad
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by Jack Lad » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:06 pm
Masterbaiter wrote: Qd2
[d] r1b1k2r/1p2qp2/p1nppn2/7p/4P1p1/1BNNP3/PPPQ2PP/R4RK1 w kq - 3 14
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g5 3. Nc3 g4 4. Ne5 h5 5. Bc4 e6 6. d4 a6 7. dxc5 Bxc5 8. Nd3 Bd4 9. Bb3 Nc6 10. O-O d6 11. Be3 Bxe3 12. fxe3 Nf6 13. Qd2 Qe7[/pgn]
Terry McCracken
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by Terry McCracken » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:35 pm
S.Taylor wrote: Masterbaiter wrote: In compensation for the weak pawns white has the open files and his pawns also cover all the valuable centre squares.
I don't think any of this is the issue here.
Atleast it depends on which cause of action we are trying to take, as white.
White has the advantage, Black's play is compromised, in both games.
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by Masterbaiter » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:55 pm
Rad1
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by Masterbaiter » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:59 pm
Nb6
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Jack Lad
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by Jack Lad » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:11 am
Masterbaiter wrote: Rad1
[d] r1b1k2r/1p1nqp2/p1npp3/7p/4P1p1/1BNNP3/PPPQ2PP/3R1RK1 w kq - 5 15
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g5 3. Nc3 g4 4. Ne5 h5 5. Bc4 e6 6. d4 a6 7. dxc5 Bxc5 8. Nd3 Bd4 9. Bb3 Nc6 10. O-O d6 11. Be3 Bxe3 12.
fxe3 Nf6 13. Qd2 Qe7 14. Rad1 Nd7[/pgn]
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by Jack Lad » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:17 am
Masterbaiter wrote: Nb6
Well played Martin - you successfully refuted the McMad gambit in just 12 moves!
[d] r1b1kbnr/1p1p1pq1/pN2p2p/2p4Q/3nPP2/1P5N/PB1P2PP/R2K1B1R b kq - 5 12
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g5 3. Nxg5 e6 4. Qh5 Qf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. f4 Nc6 7. b3 h6 8. Nh3 Nd4 9. Bb2 Nxc2+ 10. Kd1 Nd4 11. Na4 Qg7 12. Nb6 1-0[/pgn]
[Event "CTF chess game"]
[Site "CTF"]
[Date "2015.06.07"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Martin Devenport"]
[Black "Jack Lad"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "1300"]
[ECO "B27"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Time "08:36:24"]
[Variation "1.e4 c5 2.Nf3"]
[WhiteElo "2300"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g5 3. Nxg5 e6 4. Qh5 Qf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. f4 Nc6 7. b3 h6 8. Nh3 Nd4 9. Bb2 Nxc2+ 10. Kd1 Nd4 11. Na4 Qg7 12. Nb6 1-0
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by Masterbaiter » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:33 am
I would hesitate to say that you are beaten yet
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