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Re: MD v JL: Gambit declined

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Nf4
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Re: MD v JL : Gambit accepted

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Masterbaiter wrote:I would hesitate to say that you are beaten yet
Nice game Martin.

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Re: MD v JL : Gambit accepted

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Masterbaiter wrote:I would hesitate to say that you are beaten yet
There is always the chance that you could make a blunder or a poor move but I can't see any way for black to hold the draw here. Thanks for the game anyway. 8-)
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Re: MD v JL: Gambit declined

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Masterbaiter wrote:Nf4
[d] r1b1k2r/1p1nqp2/p2pp3/4n2p/4PNp1/1BN1P3/PPPQ2PP/3R1RK1 w kq - 7 16
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g5 3. Nc3 g4 4. Ne5 h5 5. Bc4 e6 6. d4 a6 7. dxc5 Bxc5 8. Nd3 Bd4 9. Bb3 Nc6 10. O-O d6 11. Be3 Bxe3 12. fxe3 Nf6 13. Qd2 Qe7 14. Rad1 Nd7 15. Nf4 Nce5[/pgn]
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Re: MD v JL: Gambit declined

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Qxd6
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S.Taylor
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Re: MD v JL: Gambit declined

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Terry McCracken wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:
Masterbaiter wrote:In compensation for the weak pawns white has the open files and his pawns also cover all the valuable centre squares.
I don't think any of this is the issue here.
Atleast it depends on which cause of action we are trying to take, as white.
White has the advantage, Black's play is compromised, in both games.
Don't the other moves, since the first few, make much difference at all?
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Re: MD v JL: Gambit declined

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S.Taylor wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:
Masterbaiter wrote:In compensation for the weak pawns white has the open files and his pawns also cover all the valuable centre squares.
I don't think any of this is the issue here.
Atleast it depends on which cause of action we are trying to take, as white.
White has the advantage, Black's play is compromised, in both games.
Don't the other moves, since the first few, make much difference at all?
They do but not enough if your opponent exploits a bad opening such as this one, with Black no less.

Unlike the Game Mc Maleficent criticised! http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1497422
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Re: MD v JL: Gambit declined

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Terry McCracken wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:
Masterbaiter wrote:In compensation for the weak pawns white has the open files and his pawns also cover all the valuable centre squares.
I don't think any of this is the issue here.
Atleast it depends on which cause of action we are trying to take, as white.
White has the advantage, Black's play is compromised, in both games.
Don't the other moves, since the first few, make much difference at all?
They do but not enough if your opponent exploits a bad opening such as this one, with Black no less.

Unlike the Game Mc Maleficent criticised! http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1497422
Wow! NN walked right into that mate!

Yes, i think 6....Nb8 was fine in that position.

I don't know what mcmaleficent criticised.
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Re: MD v JL: Gambit declined

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S.Taylor wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:
Masterbaiter wrote:In compensation for the weak pawns white has the open files and his pawns also cover all the valuable centre squares.
I don't think any of this is the issue here.
Atleast it depends on which cause of action we are trying to take, as white.
White has the advantage, Black's play is compromised, in both games.
Don't the other moves, since the first few, make much difference at all?
They do but not enough if your opponent exploits a bad opening such as this one, with Black no less.

Unlike the Game Mc Maleficent criticised! http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1497422
Wow! NN walked right into that mate!

Yes, i think 6....Nb8 was fine in that position.

I don't know what mcmaleficent criticised.
Nb8 :lol:
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Re: MD v JL: Gambit declined

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I don't know what he thought was better.
Surely the most ideal achievement in development is to get all the pieces to their most comfortable places and all working together. It's not much point in having horses dancing around aimlessly and getting in the way of everything else, and being lucky to exchange it off to get it out of the way. Getting things in the way and messing things up doesn't gain any tempo.
(BTW, I think this description is what can happen with REAL horses!)