MD v JL

[Masterbaiter]

Kd2

[Jack Lad]

Kd2

[d] 5r2/3b1r2/1p1k1p2/p2Pp3/4P1p1/1PN1P1Pp/1P1K1R1P/2R5 w - - 16 39
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g5 3. Nc3 g4 4. Ne5 h5 5. Bc4 e6 6. d4 a6 7. dxc5 Bxc5 8. Nd3 Bd4 9. Bb3 Nc6 10. O-O d6 11. Be3 Bxe3 12. fxe3 Nf6 13. Qd2 Qe7 14. Rad1 Nd7 15. Nf4 Nce5 16. Qxd6 Qxd6 17. Rxd6 Ke7 18. Rfd1 Nc5 19. R6d2 Nxb3 20. axb3 Bd7 21. Nd3 Nxd3 22. cxd3 f6 23. Rf1 Raf8 24. d4 h4 25. Rdf2 Bc6 26. Rf4 Rhg8 27. g3 h3 28. R1f2 a5 29. Rf1 b6 30. d5 e5 31. R4f2 Bd7 32. Rd1 Rg7 33. Kf1 Rgf7 34. Ke1 Kd6 35. Ke2 Rc8 36. Ra1 Rcf8 37. Rc1 Rc8 38. Kd2 Rcf8[/pgn]

[S.Taylor]

VERY IMPORTANT:
Please can someone ask Martin Thoresen to include the maccmad gambit (both declined and accepted) in his next TCEC tournament.

The reason for doing the accepted version is because it really DOES look ridiculous, but maybe black can find a way out of it.

The reason for the declined (although no one would ever decline it), is to see if indeed white is better and can capitalize.

[Masterbaiter]

I have been playing it in speed games with a lot of success! It does have some merit in that it is absurd and throws people off immediately

[Masterbaiter]

Ke2

[gerold]

Ke2

Just well call this game a draw Martin. At this point the game could be a draw. All black has to do is not trade any pieces and it is a draw. If you decide to play it out, game could go to 200 moves.

I vote for a new game with no preset opening.

Best,
Gerold.

[Jack Lad]

Ke2

[d] 2r5/3b1r2/1p1k1p2/p2Pp3/4P1p1/1PN1P1Pp/1P2KR1P/2R5 w - - 18 40
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g5 3. Nc3 g4 4. Ne5 h5 5. Bc4 e6 6. d4 a6 7. dxc5 Bxc5 8. Nd3 Bd4 9. Bb3 Nc6 10. O-O d6 11. Be3 Bxe3 12. fxe3 Nf6 13. Qd2 Qe7 14. Rad1 Nd7 15. Nf4 Nce5 16. Qxd6 Qxd6 17. Rxd6 Ke7 18. Rfd1 Nc5 19. R6d2 Nxb3 20. axb3 Bd7 21. Nd3 Nxd3 22. cxd3 f6 23. Rf1 Raf8 24. d4 h4 25. Rdf2 Bc6 26. Rf4 Rhg8 27. g3 h3 28. R1f2 a5 29. Rf1 b6 30. d5 e5 31. R4f2 Bd7 32. Rd1 Rg7 33. Kf1 Rgf7 34. Ke1 Kd6 35. Ke2 Rc8 36. Ra1 Rcf8 37. Rc1 Rc8 38. Kd2 Rcf8 39. Ke2 Rc8[/pgn]

[Masterbaiter]

Kd2

[Jack Lad]

Kd2

[d] 5r2/3b1r2/1p1k1p2/p2Pp3/4P1p1/1PN1P1Pp/1P1K1R1P/2R5 w - - 20 41
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g5 3. Nc3 g4 4. Ne5 h5 5. Bc4 e6 6. d4 a6 7. dxc5 Bxc5 8. Nd3 Bd4 9. Bb3 Nc6 10. O-O d6 11. Be3 Bxe3 12. fxe3 Nf6 13. Qd2 Qe7 14. Rad1 Nd7 15. Nf4 Nce5 16. Qxd6 Qxd6 17. Rxd6 Ke7 18. Rfd1 Nc5 19. R6d2 Nxb3 20. axb3 Bd7 21. Nd3 Nxd3 22. cxd3 f6 23. Rf1 Raf8 24. d4 h4 25. Rdf2 Bc6 26. Rf4 Rhg8 27. g3 h3 28. R1f2 a5 29. Rf1 b6 30. d5 e5 31. R4f2 Bd7 32. Rd1 Rg7 33. Kf1 Rgf7 34. Ke1 Kd6 35. Ke2 Rc8 36. Ra1 Rcf8 37. Rc1 Rc8 38. Kd2 Rcf8 39. Ke2 Rc8 40. Kd2 Rcf8[/pgn]

[S.Taylor]

Even though i predicted it is a draw, I didn't mean it had to be a draw by repetition, and at this stage.

You can try to open up some excursions, you just have to check out that it shouldn't be a can of worms.
You might find a winning excursion or a losing one, but i doubt there is a forced winning one.