Strange ideas about play against too strong opponent

[Henk]

Except from resigning immediately against an opponent which is much too strong I thought maybe it is a good idea to give a much lower value to the rooks. For the rooks only get active after move twenty and at that time your position is already hopeless. Another idea is not to check for promotions of your pawns.

[stegemma]

Except from resigning immediately against an opponent which is much too strong I thought maybe it is a good idea to give a much lower value to the rooks. For the rooks only get active after move twenty and at that time your position is already hopeless. Another idea is not to check for promotions of your pawns.

And maybe increase the value for pawns still in its initial rank. Your opponent needs more moves if you keep your army far from him/she

[Henk]

Other ideas are of course to increase the weight of your own king safety and double or triple thinking time for first twenty moves.

[Henk]

Changing value of my rooks does not seem to work. In this game blacks rook values are set 0.25 times their normal value. So their values are a bit more than a pawn.

[pgn]
[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "HP"]
[Date "2015.08.20"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Stockfish 6 64"]
[Black "SkipperWinb"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Annotator "1. +0.20 1... -6.96"]

1. e4 {+0.20/20} a6 {-6.96/7 6} 2. d4 {+0.54/20 5} c6 {-6.98/6 6} 3. Nc3
{+0.74/19 6} Qa5 {-6.98/6 6} 4. Bd2 {+1.06/18 8} Qb6 {-6.95/7 6} 5. Nf3
{+1.24/18 4} d6 {-7.37/7 6} 6. Bc4 {+1.11/18 6} Qxb2 {-7.38/7 5} 7. Na4
{+4.83/19 6} Qa3 {-7.87/8 5} 8. Nb6 {+4.99/20 8} Bg4 {-8.27/8 5} 9. Bxf7+
{+9.32/21 4} Kxf7 {-8.89/9 5} 10. Ng5+ {+99.77/30 4} Kg6 {-8.94/8 5} 11.
Qxg4 {+99.81/32 2.8} Qa5 {-18.21/7 5} 12. Bxa5 {+99.89/38 4} Nh6
{-18.59/8 5} 13. Qe6+ {+99.91/55 2.8} Kxg5 {-17.83/8 5} 14. h4+
{+99.93/127 3} Kh5 {-999.99/8 5} 15. g4+ {+99.95/127 0.2} Nxg4
{-999.99/8 5} 16. Qf5+ {+99.97/127 0.2} g5 {-999.99/9 5} 17. Qxg5#
{+99.99/127 0.2}
{Xboard adjudication: Checkmate} 1-0
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[stegemma]

Changing value of my rooks does not seem to work. In this game blacks rook values are set 0.25 times their normal value. So their values are a bit more than a pawn.[...]

The problem is the same of my (weak) softwares: the sooner exit of the queen.

Try to give a bonus for pieces near to their king and avoid pawn pushes, as said before. maybe you can reach move 20.

[Henk]

Setting rook value to zero does better for in this game white exchanges its bishop for a worthless rook.

[pgn]
[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "HP"]
[Date "2015.08.20"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Stockfish 6 64"]
[Black "SkipperWinb"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Annotator "1. +0.22 1... -9.43"]

1. e4 {+0.22/21} a5 {-9.43/8 6} 2. Nf3 {+0.65/19 6} Ra6 {-9.09/8 6} 3. Bxa6
{+2.14/20 5} bxa6 {-6.96/8 6} 4. O-O {+2.48/19 4} d5 {-6.91/7 6} 5. exd5
{+2.66/21 7} Qxd5 {-6.91/7 6} 6. d4 {+2.66/21 2.9} e6 {-6.93/6 5} 7. Bf4
{+2.70/21 6} Qb7 {-6.91/7 5} 8. c4 {+2.69/20 4} Qxb2 {-6.91/8 5} 9. Nbd2
{+3.76/21 6} Nc6 {-6.90/7 5} 10. d5 {+5.24/20 5} exd5 {-6.92/8 5} 11. cxd5
{+6.54/18 4} Nce7 {-6.91/8 5} 12. Bxc7 {+8.15/19 4} Nxd5 {-6.92/8 5} 13.
Re1+ {+8.87/22 5} Be6 {-6.91/8 5} 14. Rb1 {+9.00/23 4} Qxa2 {-6.86/8 5} 15.
Rb8+ {+99.77/23 4} Kd7 {-6.84/8 5} 16. Qc1 {+99.81/28 5} Nxc7 {-9.00/7 5}
17. Ne5+ {+99.87/28 2.9} Kd6 {-9.06/7 4} 18. Rd8+ {+99.91/40 3} Bd7
{-10.34/7 4} 19. Qc6+ {+99.93/88 3} Ke7 {-999.99/8 4} 20. Rxd7+
{+99.95/127 0.3} Ke8 {-999.99/8 4} 21. Rxc7+ {+99.97/127 0.2} Kd8
{-999.99/9 5} 22. Qd7# {+99.99/127 0.2}
{Xboard adjudication: Checkmate} 1-0
[/pgn]

[Henk]

Changing value of my rooks does not seem to work. In this game blacks rook values are set 0.25 times their normal value. So their values are a bit more than a pawn.[...]

The problem is the same of my (weak) softwares: the sooner exit of the queen.

Try to give a bonus for pieces near to their king and avoid pawn pushes, as said before. maybe you can reach move 20.

ok queen is the problem.

[Henk]

Yes a record 44 moves. Skipper just did not count white's pawns and blacks rooks. Shame on Stockfish. ELO difference at least 1200 points.

[pgn]
[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "HP"]
[Date "2015.08.20"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Stockfish 6 64"]
[Black "SkipperWinb"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Annotator "1. +0.20 1... -4.08"]

1. e4 {+0.20/20} Nh6 {-4.08/7 6} 2. Nc3 {+0.87/20 7} a5 {-4.08/7 6} 3. Nf3
{+1.20/20 5} Ra6 {-4.09/8 6} 4. Bxa6 {+2.58/19 5} bxa6 {-1.45/8 6} 5. d4
{+2.88/19 4} d6 {-1.05/7 6} 6. O-O {+2.81/18 5} Qd7 {-1.05/7 5} 7. Qe2
{+3.27/20 20} Bb7 {-1.45/7 5} 8. Re1 {+3.17/19 15} Bc8 {-1.39/7 5} 9. h3
{+3.57/19 10} Nc6 {-1.76/7 5} 10. Bg5 {+3.53/19 5} Ng8 {-1.04/7 5} 11. Rad1
{+3.54/20 4} Na7 {-1.04/7 5} 12. d5 {+4.07/20 4} f6 {-1.77/8 5} 13. Be3
{+4.42/19 4} c5 {-1.77/7 5} 14. e5 {+4.65/23 3} fxe5 {-1.40/7 5} 15. Nxe5
{+4.51/22 4} dxe5 {-0.33/8 5} 16. Qh5+ {+4.76/21 4} Kd8 {-0.58/7 5} 17.
Bxc5 {+5.92/24 4} Qb7 {-1.30/7 4} 18. d6 {+6.06/25 6} exd6 {-1.69/7 4} 19.
Bxd6 {+8.02/23 4} Bd7 {-2.40/7 4} 20. Bxf8 {+11.64/24 6} Nf6 {-2.35/8 4}
21. Qf7 {+12.03/25 5} Rxf8 {-2.35/8 5} 22. Qxf8+ {+13.22/23 5} Kc7
{-3.43/8 5} 23. Qxg7 {+13.48/24 4} Qc6 {-4.20/8 5} 24. Qxf6 {+13.76/25 7}
Qxf6 {-4.21/8 5} 25. Nd5+ {+13.88/23 4} Kb8 {-4.10/8 5} 26. Nxf6
{+14.24/22 6} Bb5 {-4.83/8 5} 27. Rxe5 {+15.02/21 4} h6 {-4.82/7 5} 28. Rh5
{+15.72/20 3} Be2 {-4.84/8 5} 29. Rd8+ {+49.95/24 4} Kc7 {-4.84/8 4} 30.
Rd7+ {+52.27/28 5} Kb8 {-5.67/8 4} 31. Rxh6 {+53.43/29 5} Nc8 {-5.68/8 5}
32. Rd8 {+58.10/29 3} Bc4 {-7.82/8 4} 33. Nd7+ {+99.57/29 4} Kc7
{-7.05/9 4} 34. Rxc8+ {+99.67/29 5} Kxc8 {-7.07/9 4} 35. Nb6+ {+99.69/26 3}
Kb7 {-7.08/9 4} 36. Nxc4 {+99.79/25 2.9} a4 {-7.08/8 4} 37. g4
{+99.81/25 4} Ka7 {-7.94/8 4} 38. g5 {+99.87/26 2.3} Kb7 {-15.53/8 4} 39.
g6 {+99.89/30 2.8} a3 {-17.35/9 4} 40. g7 {+99.91/49 1.7} axb2
{-999.99/10 3} 41. Nxb2 {+99.93/127 0.8} Ka7 {-999.99/9 2.4} 42. g8=Q
{+99.95/127 0.3} Kb7 {-999.99/8 2.4} 43. Qf7+ {+99.97/127 0.3} Kc8
{-999.99/8 3} 44. Rh8# {+99.99/127 0.2}
{Xboard adjudication: Checkmate} 1-0
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