After 10580 games the result is this.
Komodo is not in standard setting. I have Selective 150 on it.
All other option is standard.
I have not use opening book.
Have set 4 CPUs on both engine on a i7 3770 cpu.
Tested in Fritz 15 GUI with windows 10.
1m+1s is playing time.
1 Stockfish 7 64 POPCNT +22 +2348/=6539/-1693 53.10% 5617.5/10580
2 Komodo 9.3 64-bit -22 +1693/=6539/-2348 46.90% 4962.5/10580
Can mention that is nearly +21 to Sf. If 53,08%, it is +21 ELO.
I took the same test with standard option on Komodo 9.3.
Selective is then on 131.
This is the result.
1 Stockfish 7 64 POPCNT +24 +1262/=3514/-874 53.43% 3019.0/5650
2 Komodo 9.3 64-bit -24 +874/=3514/-1262 46.57% 2631.0/5650
I am sorry for to little games in the last result.
But windows 10 go in automatic restart after a update.
When i testing now, I take out the internett-plug so this not happend more times.
Conklusion:
Maybe Komodo 9.3 is a little bit stronger with Selective 150 than standard 131.
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I notes the % with Selective 150 for Stockfish.
6024 games: 53,11%
6144 games: 53,08%
6388 games: 53,18%
6690 games: 53,14%
6978 games: 53,08%
7000 games: 53,06%
7220 games: 53,14%
7340 games: 53,16%
7542 games: 53,12%
8034 games: 53,19%
8278 games: 53,15%
8386 games: 53,16%
8730 games: 53,17%
9002 games: 53,13%
9336 games: 530,9%
9754 games: 53,12%
9896 games: 53,08%
10066 games: 53,10%
10560 games: 53,09%
10580 games: 53,10%
As we can see, Sf is between +21 and +22 Elo stronger than Stockfish with Selective 150. And Sf is +24 ELO stronger than Komodo with Selective 131 (standard option). We gain 2-3 ELO with Selective 150.
53,08% is +21 ELO for Stockfish.
Allover 53, 08 is +22 ELO for Stockfish.
Komodo has i little bit gain i ELO with Selective=150
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Re: Komodo has i little bit gain i ELO with Selective=150
Komodo 9.3 - Sf7
Time control 1m+1s
Without sysygy
Without opening book
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With selective=131
sf7 +1262/=3514/-874 53.43% 3019/5650 +24
K9.3 +874/=3514/-1262 46.57% 2631/5650 - 24
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With selective=150
Sf7 +2348/=6539/-1693 53.10% 5617.5/10580 +22
K9.3 +1693/=6539/-2348 46.90% 4962.5/10580 - 22
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With selective=170
Sf7 +924/=2537/-661 53.19% 2192.5/4122 +22
K9.3 +661/=2537/-924 46.81% 1929.5/4122 - 22
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It surprises me that there is so little difference between the various selectivtiy.
There are some few games in the last test (selectivity=150), but I see that it goes against the same as the other settings.
Since Komodo 9:42 came, I'd rather test it. Therefore I interrupted last test.
It may look like Komodo 9.3 is best with selectivity = 150.
Too few played games to prove anything.
Time control 1m+1s
Without sysygy
Without opening book
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With selective=131
sf7 +1262/=3514/-874 53.43% 3019/5650 +24
K9.3 +874/=3514/-1262 46.57% 2631/5650 - 24
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With selective=150
Sf7 +2348/=6539/-1693 53.10% 5617.5/10580 +22
K9.3 +1693/=6539/-2348 46.90% 4962.5/10580 - 22
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With selective=170
Sf7 +924/=2537/-661 53.19% 2192.5/4122 +22
K9.3 +661/=2537/-924 46.81% 1929.5/4122 - 22
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It surprises me that there is so little difference between the various selectivtiy.
There are some few games in the last test (selectivity=150), but I see that it goes against the same as the other settings.
Since Komodo 9:42 came, I'd rather test it. Therefore I interrupted last test.
It may look like Komodo 9.3 is best with selectivity = 150.
Too few played games to prove anything.
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Re: Komodo has i little bit gain i ELO with Selective=150
Default
80 for Komodo 9.01 and 9.02,
68 for Komodo 9.1
74 for Komodo 9.2
130 for Komodo 9.3
131 for Komodo 9.4
80 for Komodo 9.01 and 9.02,
68 for Komodo 9.1
74 for Komodo 9.2
130 for Komodo 9.3
131 for Komodo 9.4
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Re: Komodo has i little bit gain i ELO with Selective=150
Yuri wrote:
Default
80 for Komodo 9.01 and 9.02,
68 for Komodo 9.1
74 for Komodo 9.2
130 for Komodo 9.3
131 for Komodo 9.4
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When I push on Defaults on my Komodo 9.3, the Selective is 131, not 130 as you wrote. But maybe there are different versions of it.
Default
80 for Komodo 9.01 and 9.02,
68 for Komodo 9.1
74 for Komodo 9.2
130 for Komodo 9.3
131 for Komodo 9.4
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When I push on Defaults on my Komodo 9.3, the Selective is 131, not 130 as you wrote. But maybe there are different versions of it.
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Re: Komodo has i little bit gain i ELO with Selective=150
I have done same Selective test on Komodo 9.42 as 9.3.
I have tested it with Selective 131 (standard) and Selective 150.
All others option is standard.
Without opening book and without sysygy.
Time: 1m+1s
This is the result:
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With Selective 131 (standard)
Stockfish 7: +552/=1268/-364 54,30% 1186,0/2184 +30
Komodo 9.42: +364/=1268/-552 45,70% 998,0/2184 -30
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Stockfish 7: +549/=1323/-366 54,09% 1210,5/2238 +28
Komodo 9.42: +366/=1323/-549 45,91% 1027,5/2238 -28
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Komodo still gain +2 ELO against Stockfish 7 with selective 150.
This is not a prove. But I can see the pattern.
In short game, selective 150 gain a little bit against stockfish 7.
In long game I don't know anything. It can be opposite.
And! Too few game to conclude of anytning.
I can altso see a pattern that Komodo 9.42 is weaker than 9.3 in game with 1m+1s. 6 ELO actual.
Of course it can be opposite with 2m+1s.
I have tested it with Selective 131 (standard) and Selective 150.
All others option is standard.
Without opening book and without sysygy.
Time: 1m+1s
This is the result:
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With Selective 131 (standard)
Stockfish 7: +552/=1268/-364 54,30% 1186,0/2184 +30
Komodo 9.42: +364/=1268/-552 45,70% 998,0/2184 -30
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Stockfish 7: +549/=1323/-366 54,09% 1210,5/2238 +28
Komodo 9.42: +366/=1323/-549 45,91% 1027,5/2238 -28
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Komodo still gain +2 ELO against Stockfish 7 with selective 150.
This is not a prove. But I can see the pattern.
In short game, selective 150 gain a little bit against stockfish 7.
In long game I don't know anything. It can be opposite.
And! Too few game to conclude of anytning.
I can altso see a pattern that Komodo 9.42 is weaker than 9.3 in game with 1m+1s. 6 ELO actual.
Of course it can be opposite with 2m+1s.
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Re: Komodo has i little bit gain i ELO with Selective=150
A new test is done.
Stockfish 7 - Komodo 9.42 with Selective = 100. All others is standard.
1m+1s
1 Stockfish 7 64 POPCNT +23 +2231/=5325/-1624 53.31% 4893.5/9180
2 Komodo 9.42 64-bit -23 +1624/=5325/-2231 46.69% 4286.5/9180
This is the best result so far for Komodo.
The test is done without opening book and without sysygy.
4 cpu is used on Fritz 15 gui, (8 cpu is possible), on a i7 3770 cpu.
Standard Hash is used in Fritz 15 gui for engine match.
Stockfish 7 - Komodo 9.42 with Selective = 100. All others is standard.
1m+1s
1 Stockfish 7 64 POPCNT +23 +2231/=5325/-1624 53.31% 4893.5/9180
2 Komodo 9.42 64-bit -23 +1624/=5325/-2231 46.69% 4286.5/9180
This is the best result so far for Komodo.
The test is done without opening book and without sysygy.
4 cpu is used on Fritz 15 gui, (8 cpu is possible), on a i7 3770 cpu.
Standard Hash is used in Fritz 15 gui for engine match.