Crazyhouse tournaments and rating list

Ferdy · Post by **Ferdy** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:00 am

Vinvin wrote:Games are here : https://www.dropbox.com/s/w0j3vvm48viu4 ... e.zip?dl=0

Ave depth and time comparison:

 nr                       player  games  pts%      sumTime aveDep    aveTime

  1    stockfish-windows-6-cores    781  82.5  00&#58;10&#58;17&#58;33  14.49  00&#58;01&#58;211
  2     stockfish-windows-1-core    781  17.5  00&#58;10&#58;39&#58;52  13.41  00&#58;01&#58;266

file         &#58; SF-zh-6cores-vs-1core.pgn
score window &#58; &#91;-1000.0, +1000.0&#93;
notes        &#58; 1. games and pts% are not affected by score window.
               2. Table is sorted by aveDep in descending order.
               3. aveTime is the average time/move in m&#58;s&#58;ms
               4. sumTime is in d&#58;h&#58;m&#58;s

At winning score say +3 to +6, this is the win probability:

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file         &#58; SF-zh-6cores-vs-1core.pgn
score window &#58; &#91;+3.0, +6.0&#93;
games and pts% are not affected by score window

 nr                       player games pts&#40;%) winProb
  1    stockfish-windows-6-cores   781   82.5    0.96
  2     stockfish-windows-1-core   781   17.5    0.62

The 6-core is high but could not get 100% even with that score window. But of course the TC is also important to be considered here.

Ferdy · Post by **Ferdy** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:01 pm

New is Stockfish zh 09Dec2016 and CrazyWa 0.1.3.

https://sites.google.com/site/zhassocia ... ratinglist

Vinvin · Post by **Vinvin** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:48 pm

Ferdy wrote:New is Stockfish zh 09Dec2016 and CrazyWa 0.1.3.

https://sites.google.com/site/zhassocia ... ratinglist

I'm running a big regression test (161130 vs 161209) on my 6 cores@4GHz, 6 different time control : 55s+2s ; 50s+2s ; 45s+2s ; 40s+2s ; 35s+2s ; 30s+2s.
With your book "ccva-520start.pgn".
There will be around 1500 games in a couple of hours.

Vinvin · Post by **Vinvin** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:15 pm

Vinvin wrote:
Ferdy wrote:New is Stockfish zh 09Dec2016 and CrazyWa 0.1.3.

https://sites.google.com/site/zhassocia ... ratinglist
I'm running a big regression test (161130 vs 161209) on my 6 cores@4GHz, 6 different time control : 55s+2s ; 50s+2s ; 45s+2s ; 40s+2s ; 35s+2s ; 30s+2s.
With your book "ccva-520start.pgn".
There will be around 1500 games in a couple of hours.

Results after 23 hours of testing on a 6 cores@4GHz , stockfish-091216 vs stockfish-301116 :

30s+s2 : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 249 - 118 - 13 [0.672]
ELO difference: 124.89 +/- 36.62

35s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 216 - 129 - 15 [0.621]
ELO difference: 85.66 +/- 36.26

40s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 223 - 106 - 11 [0.672]
ELO difference: 124.64 +/- 38.77

45s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 198 - 122 - 12 [0.614]
ELO difference: 80.97 +/- 37.77

50s+2s : 170 - 123 - 7 [57.8%]

55s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-301116-1thread vs stockfish-modern-091216-1thread: 107 - 180 - 13 [0.378]
ELO difference: -86.27 +/- 39.74

Sum and perf :
2012 games : +1236 -705 =71
Perf : (1236-705)/2012*400 = +105.6 Elo

Games are here : https://www.dropbox.com/s/54bn20y88ito8 ... 6.zip?dl=0

Ferdy · Post by **Ferdy** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:25 am

Vinvin wrote:
Vinvin wrote:
Ferdy wrote:New is Stockfish zh 09Dec2016 and CrazyWa 0.1.3.

https://sites.google.com/site/zhassocia ... ratinglist
I'm running a big regression test (161130 vs 161209) on my 6 cores@4GHz, 6 different time control : 55s+2s ; 50s+2s ; 45s+2s ; 40s+2s ; 35s+2s ; 30s+2s.
With your book "ccva-520start.pgn".
There will be around 1500 games in a couple of hours.
Results after 23 hours of testing on a 6 cores@4GHz , stockfish-091216 vs stockfish-301116 :

30s+s2 : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 249 - 118 - 13 [0.672]
ELO difference: 124.89 +/- 36.62

35s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 216 - 129 - 15 [0.621]
ELO difference: 85.66 +/- 36.26

40s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 223 - 106 - 11 [0.672]
ELO difference: 124.64 +/- 38.77

45s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 198 - 122 - 12 [0.614]
ELO difference: 80.97 +/- 37.77

50s+2s : 170 - 123 - 7 [57.8%]

55s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-301116-1thread vs stockfish-modern-091216-1thread: 107 - 180 - 13 [0.378]
ELO difference: -86.27 +/- 39.74

Sum and perf :
2012 games : +1236 -705 =71
Perf : (1236-705)/2012*400 = +105.6 Elo

Games are here : https://www.dropbox.com/s/54bn20y88ito8 ... 6.zip?dl=0

To save time two TC would be enough, that is 30s+2s and 55s+2s.

Vinvin · Post by **Vinvin** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:19 am

Ferdy wrote:
Vinvin wrote:
Vinvin wrote:
Ferdy wrote:New is Stockfish zh 09Dec2016 and CrazyWa 0.1.3.

https://sites.google.com/site/zhassocia ... ratinglist
I'm running a big regression test (161130 vs 161209) on my 6 cores@4GHz, 6 different time control : 55s+2s ; 50s+2s ; 45s+2s ; 40s+2s ; 35s+2s ; 30s+2s.
With your book "ccva-520start.pgn".
There will be around 1500 games in a couple of hours.
Results after 23 hours of testing on a 6 cores@4GHz , stockfish-091216 vs stockfish-301116 :

30s+s2 : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 249 - 118 - 13 [0.672]
ELO difference: 124.89 +/- 36.62

35s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 216 - 129 - 15 [0.621]
ELO difference: 85.66 +/- 36.26

40s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 223 - 106 - 11 [0.672]
ELO difference: 124.64 +/- 38.77

45s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-091216-1thread vs stockfish-modern-301116-1thread: 198 - 122 - 12 [0.614]
ELO difference: 80.97 +/- 37.77

50s+2s : 170 - 123 - 7 [57.8%]

55s+2s : Score of stockfish-modern-301116-1thread vs stockfish-modern-091216-1thread: 107 - 180 - 13 [0.378]
ELO difference: -86.27 +/- 39.74

Sum and perf :
2012 games : +1236 -705 =71
Perf : (1236-705)/2012*400 = +105.6 Elo

Games are here : https://www.dropbox.com/s/54bn20y88ito8 ... 6.zip?dl=0
To save time two TC would be enough, that is 30s+2s and 55s+2s.

I feared to have duplicates games.
Please, would you mind to run your stat tool (same as here : http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 971#697971 ) on the games ?
BTW : is there some Database tools (same as SCID) to manage Crazyhouse games ?

Ferdy · Post by **Ferdy** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:37 am

Vinvin wrote:I feared to have duplicates games.
Please, would you mind to run your stat tool (same as here : http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 971#697971 ) on the games ?
BTW : is there some Database tools (same as SCID) to manage Crazyhouse games ?

Depth and time comparison:

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 nr                       player  games  pts%      sumTime aveDep    aveTime

  1         Sf-zh-091216-1thread    300  62.2  00&#58;11&#58;03&#58;33  15.01  00&#58;03&#58;319
  2         Sf-zh-301116-1thread    300  37.8  00&#58;11&#58;11&#58;56  14.87  00&#58;03&#58;372

file         &#58; SF091216-vs-SF301116-55sec-2sec.pgn
score window &#58; &#91;-1000.0, +1000.0&#93;
notes        &#58; 1. games and pts% are not affected by score window.
               2. Table is sorted by aveDep in descending order.
               3. aveTime is the average time/move in m&#58;s&#58;ms
               4. sumTime is in d&#58;h&#58;m&#58;s

Win probability on winning score:

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file         &#58; SF091216-vs-SF301116-55sec-2sec.pgn
score window &#58; &#91;+3.0, +6.0&#93;
games and pts% are not affected by score window

 nr                       player games pts&#40;%) winProb
  1         Sf-zh-091216-1thread   300   62.2    0.85
  2         Sf-zh-301116-1thread   300   37.8    0.73

Try here, I don't know now if this was further developed.
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... crazyhouse

Guenther · Post by **Guenther** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:40 am

Ferdy wrote:
Try here, I don't know now if this was further developed.
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... crazyhouse

AFAIK there is no Win version of Scidb. I wanted to test another feature of it recently only to see it just supports Linux currently.

Vinvin · Post by **Vinvin** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:44 am

Ferdy wrote: Here is what I have so far.

Try to spy top players to see what are the current strongest openings :
https://fr.lichess.org/games/search?rat ... order=desc

And JannLee's videos here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbo8-5 ... W1Q/videos

Ferdy · Post by **Ferdy** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:55 am

Vinvin wrote:
Ferdy wrote: Here is what I have so far.
Try to spy top players to see what are the current strongest openings :
https://fr.lichess.org/games/search?rat ... order=desc

And JannLee's videos here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbo8-5 ... W1Q/videos

I created those opening suites using Lichess and engine analysis.

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