I noticed many time Isa has trouble when entering in a pawns endgame and , many time it lost.
I tried many time to extend the depth when entering in pawn endgame but it never works.
So , I got an idea : increase the pawn structure bonuses and penalities when we are in a pawn endgame (for exemple by a factor of 2 or 1.5 or..)
Some quick test show Isa now refuse to trade his pieces when his pawn structure is not very good .
Of course I need to test it with many games
What do you think ?
about entering in pawn endgame
Moderators: hgm, Rebel, chrisw
-
- Posts: 759
- Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:55 pm
- Location: Nice
about entering in pawn endgame
Isa download :
-
- Posts: 4052
- Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 9:57 pm
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Full name: Sven Schüle
Re: about entering in pawn endgame
In general a good idea. It sounds like tapered eval which should "solve" that already. Are you using it?
Furthermore, I think the scoring of passed pawns is quite important for pawn endgames. This is also a weakness of Jumbo ...
Furthermore, I think the scoring of passed pawns is quite important for pawn endgames. This is also a weakness of Jumbo ...
-
- Posts: 7220
- Joined: Mon May 27, 2013 10:31 am
Re: about entering in pawn endgame
Isolated d-pawn is not bad in opening but surely in endgame.
-
- Posts: 759
- Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:55 pm
- Location: Nice
Re: about entering in pawn endgame
Ok , testing now ,pawn structure * 2 if we are in pawns endgames (but maybe coefficient 2 is too high?)Sven Schüle wrote:In general a good idea. It sounds like tapered eval which should "solve" that already. Are you using it?
Furthermore, I think the scoring of passed pawns is quite important for pawn endgames. This is also a weakness of Jumbo ...
Yes I use tapered eval but I think it can't resolve a lot of situations for pawns endgames and sure , evaluation of passers is very important .....
And of course ,very dificult to tune correctly and is also a weakness in Isa too
Isa download :
-
- Posts: 1759
- Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:08 am
- Location: U.S.A
- Full name: Andrew Grant
Re: about entering in pawn endgame
I ramp up a couple of my pawn evaluations as end game approaches. Mainly, all bonuses associated with past pawns. It was a recent change, found about a fair chunk of elo in it.
Just make sure you are using a tapered eval. Suddenly doubling pawn related bonuses between 1 or 2 moves is sure to cause problems.
Just make sure you are using a tapered eval. Suddenly doubling pawn related bonuses between 1 or 2 moves is sure to cause problems.
#WeAreAllDraude #JusticeForDraude #RememberDraude #LeptirBigUltra
"Those who can't do, clone instead" - Eduard ( A real life friend, not this forum's Eduard )
"Those who can't do, clone instead" - Eduard ( A real life friend, not this forum's Eduard )
-
- Posts: 759
- Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:55 pm
- Location: Nice
Re: about entering in pawn endgame
Ok test stopped ... It played worse so restart in to think about others improvmentsAndrewGrant wrote:I ramp up a couple of my pawn evaluations as end game approaches. Mainly, all bonuses associated with past pawns. It was a recent change, found about a fair chunk of elo in it.
Just make sure you are using a tapered eval. Suddenly doubling pawn related bonuses between 1 or 2 moves is sure to cause problems.
Thanks to your answers
Isa download :
-
- Posts: 7220
- Joined: Mon May 27, 2013 10:31 am
Re: about entering in pawn endgame
According to Lyudmil Tsvetkov playing style is most important. So it may not matter if ELO is worse. Otherwise you get another Stockfish and what can be worse than that.