Chess is no draughts

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Henk
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Chess is no draughts

Post by Henk »

After long thinking I rejected the probably winning move Nb4!! because I thought I had to recapture (fe4??) after fe4:
Instead I played ef5?

[d] 1nk5/2p5/1pP2p2/4pp1p/P3P2P/3N1PP1/8/3K4 w - - 1 28
Henk
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Re: Chess is no draughts

Post by Henk »

Skipper also not able to detect that Nb4 is winning.

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Depth  Value   Time(seconds)   Nodes
 17    0.6230     220.28    75837944   d3b4 f5e4 f3e4 c8d8 d1d2 d8e7 b4d5 e7d6 d5f6 d6c6 f6h5 b8a6 d2c1 a6c5 g3g4 c5a4 
 16    0.6880      45.81    18911135   d3b4 f5e4 f3e4 c8d8 d1e1 d8e7 b4d5 e7d6 d5f6 d6c6 f6h5 b8d7 
 15    1.0850      12.47     6237614   d3b4 f5e4 f3e4 c8d8 d1d2 d8e7 b4d5 e7f7 d5c7 b8c6 c7d5 f7e6 d5b6 f6f5 e4f5 
 14    1.2070       4.43     2046026   d3b4 f5e4 f3e4 c8d8 d1d2 d8e7 b4d5 e7f7 d5c7 b8c6 c7d5 f7e6 d5b6 c6b4 
 13    1.1410       1.74      875117   d3b4 f5e4 f3e4 c8d8 d1d2 d8c8 d2c1 c8d8 
 12    1.1410       1.19      521234   d3b4 f5e4 f3e4 c8d8 b4d5 b8c6 d5f6 c6b4 f6h5 c7c5 g3g4 c5c4 
 11    0.2550       0.52      313582   d3b4 f5f4 g3f4 e5f4 b4d5 b8c6 d5f4 c6d4 f4h5 
 10    0.2860       0.21      120964   d3b4 f5f4 g3f4 e5f4 d1e1 c8d8 b4d5 b8c6 d5f6 c6d4 
  9    0.2110       0.14       86315   d3b4 f5f4 g3f4 e5f4 b4d5 b8c6 d5f4 c6d4 f4h5 
  8    0.2010       0.06       33792   e4f5 b8c6 f3f4 e5e4 d3f2 c6d4 f2e4 d4f5 
  7    0.0000       0.03       16585   e4f5 b8c6 d3e1 c6b4 g3g4 h5g4 f3g4 
  6    0.0070       0.01        6979   e4f5 b8c6 d3e1 c6b4 g3g4 h5g4 
  5   -0.0050       0.01        4700   e4f5 b8c6 d3e1 c8d7 d1d2 
  4    0.0240       0.00        1198   e4f5 b8c6 d1e1 c8d7 
  3    0.0040       0.01         618   e4f5 b8c6 d1e1 
  2    0.0280       0.00          91   e4f5 b8c6 
  1    0.0460       0.03         102   d3f2 
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Re: Chess is no draughts

Post by Uri Blass »

I do not understand because after 1.Nb4 fxe4 the move 2.fxe4 is winning so thinking that you have to play 2.fxe4 in this line is not a reason to reject 1.Nb4
Henk
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Re: Chess is no draughts

Post by Henk »

Uri Blass wrote:I do not understand because after 1.Nb4 fxe4 the move 2.fxe4 is winning so thinking that you have to play 2.fxe4 in this line is not a reason to reject 1.Nb4
Yes computer says fe4 is winning as well. Although more complicated.

During the game I did not see that.
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Re: Chess is no draughts

Post by Henk »

Henk wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:I do not understand because after 1.Nb4 fxe4 the move 2.fxe4 is winning so thinking that you have to play 2.fxe4 in this line is not a reason to reject 1.Nb4
Yes computer says fe4 is winning as well. Although more complicated.

During the game I did not see that.
Actually not complicated at all. Future passed pawn on h4 is winning.