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Evert Glebbeek



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PostPost subject: Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi    Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:39 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

While I commend the organisers for trying to figure out why the number of contestants is low, and take steps accordingly, I can't help but feel that there are other reasons at play, that the organisers have little or no way to impact.

First of all, as an academic research enterprise, computer chess seems to be "done". AI research seems to have moved on from chess. I'd have said Go and perhaps Shogi are interesting successor fields, but...

Second, as a commercial enterprise, computer chess is also not as interesting as it used to be. Back in the day, having the strongest program meant something. Today, many programs are so far beyond human strength it doesn't really matter which one you pick (for amateurs). So having the strongest program isn't as big of a deal anymore. There's still some interest and some market, but it's smaller.

Third, there are a fair number of strong amateur programs. Cost (addressed by the organisers in terms of money) and time become an issue there. Not everyone can just take time out of work to operate a program, and finding someone to do it for you is a hassle. Plus, let's be honest, who needs human operators to make moves in 2017?

So while I hope that they can keep interesting and lively tournaments going, I rather suspect it just delays the inevitable, where the world computer chess championship becomes something much more small-scale.
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Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championship – Mark Lefler Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:12 pm
      Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championship Sean Evans Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:37 am
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi daniel jose Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:55 am
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Greg Simpson Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:35 am
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Sean Evans Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:00 pm
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi daniel jose Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:05 pm
                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:47 pm
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            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:31 pm
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            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Daniel Anulliero Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:55 pm
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                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Guenther Simon Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:58 pm
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Graham Banks Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:00 pm
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                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi John Margusen Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:36 pm
                                    Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Harvey Williamson Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:58 pm
                                          Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Jesse Gersenson Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:15 pm
                                                Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Brian Smith Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:48 pm
      Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Kevin Plant Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:48 am
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Erin Dame Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:54 am
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      Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Jon Dart Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:36 pm
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      Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Evert Glebbeek Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:39 pm
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Mark Lefler Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:21 pm
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Jon Dart Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:59 am
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ronald de Man Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:58 pm
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Lucas Braesch Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:29 am
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ferdinand Mosca Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:24 am
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi H.G.Muller Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:34 am
                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Uri Blass Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:14 am
                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:15 am
                                    Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi H.G.Muller Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:24 am
                                          Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:45 am
                                          Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ronald de Man Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:03 pm
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ed Schroder Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:36 am
      Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Rasmus Althoff Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:47 pm
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:33 pm
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ray Banks Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:04 am
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Nuno Sousa Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:16 am
                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi H.G.Muller Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:56 am
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:28 pm
                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Rasmus Althoff Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:51 pm
                                    Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:33 pm
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Rasmus Althoff Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:22 pm
      Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ferdinand Mosca Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:30 pm
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                                                Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi H.G.Muller Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:31 am
                                                      Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ronald de Man Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:33 pm
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                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Mark Lefler Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:34 pm
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Mark Lefler Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:49 pm
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ferdinand Mosca Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:22 pm
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ronald de Man Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:45 pm
                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Brian Smith Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:16 am
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