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Rasmus Althoff



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PostPost subject: Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi    Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:47 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

Maybe there's another problem with the travel in general. International air travel in particular has become nasty due to security lockdowns. It is only getting worse over time, see the current ideas to ban laptops (and have them stolen from or damaged in checked baggage).

The event is located in the Netherlands. This means that getting things like visa permits in place is easiest for participants from the Schengen Area (they don't need any), more difficult from other Western countries and a lot of hassle for the rest of the world.

While this is not the fault of the ICGA, the result still is that participants will experience discrimination by country.

The whole event in itself is totally out of touch with 2017. We have things like video meetings. VR and telemetric surgery are right around the corner - and people have to travel for entering chess moves into a computer? This is totally backwards. The participants could just submit their engines and maybe join via Skype.

An engine tournament is not a human tournament, and mimicking human championships even more via the 2018 format makes even less sense.

In the same way, modern engine contests are not via a small number of games. In fact, this doesn't even make sense for humans, but that's because of human limitations engines don't have. Humans cannot play some thousand games a day or so.

That the WCCC still is using such small numbers makes the event even more irrelevant. The outcome is more or less like taking the strongest engines and throwing dice.

The only actual value I can see is for commercial engines. A by and large meaningless title still can be used for marketing.
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Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championship – Mark Lefler Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:12 pm
      Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championship Sean Evans Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:37 am
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi daniel jose Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:55 am
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Greg Simpson Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:35 am
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Sean Evans Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:00 pm
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi daniel jose Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:05 pm
                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:47 pm
                                    Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi daniel jose Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:09 pm
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:31 pm
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi John Margusen Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:05 pm
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Daniel Anulliero Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:55 pm
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            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Graham Banks Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:00 pm
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                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi John Margusen Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:36 pm
                                    Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Harvey Williamson Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:58 pm
                                          Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Jesse Gersenson Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:15 pm
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                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ronald de Man Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:58 pm
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                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ferdinand Mosca Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:24 am
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                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:15 am
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                                          Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ronald de Man Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:03 pm
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ed Schroder Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:36 am
      Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Rasmus Althoff Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:47 pm
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:33 pm
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ray Banks Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:04 am
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Nuno Sousa Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:16 am
                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi H.G.Muller Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:56 am
                        Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:28 pm
                              Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Rasmus Althoff Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:51 pm
                                    Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Henk van den Belt Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:33 pm
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Rasmus Althoff Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:22 pm
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                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Mark Lefler Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:34 pm
            Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Mark Lefler Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:49 pm
                  Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi Ferdinand Mosca Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:22 pm
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