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Ronald de Man



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PostPost subject: Re: Important announcement: World Computer Chess Championshi    Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:33 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

hgm wrote:
syzygy wrote:
We may have had this discussion before. It is blatantly not the case that releasing code under the GPL implies permission for the author's name to be listed on the entry form of whatever engine in whatever tournament. What the GPL means is stated in the GPL itself.

You don't need legal permission to write anyones name anywhere.

Oh come on. Fraud is a crime. The ICGA entry form asks you to declare that the persons whose names are listed have given permission.

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If someone asks me who is author of Shredder, I can write Stephan Meyer-Kahlen, without consulting Stephan in any way. And Shredder is not even open source. The GPL actually states that it is not possible to put restrictions of any kind on the software, other than that modifications must be released under GPL. Not being allowed to mention the author would be such a restriction.

GPL is about copyright. Entering a rightfully owned program in an ICGA tournament is not an infringement of copyright. But this is separate from the act of fraud just described.

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(Not to mention the problem that any author's name can only be listed once in case of ICGA tournaments.)

This doesn't seem to be a problem. Eugene Nalimov, for example, used to be mentioned many times. Many engine's used his EGT probing code. This is a moot point anyway, as I don't think any of the contributors to Stockfish wants to enter an engine of his own. The real problem is exactly the opposite: no one wants to enter an engine at all.

The Hyatt-trick, but that trick cannot be stretched forever.

It is not a moot point, as many engines exist that are very much based on SF.
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