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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core And 1920X 12-Core CPUs

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No word on X399 boards price, ECC or not... total price of the platform is still very hard to estimate.
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Thanks for sharing.

It is still very difficult to know if this chip will good for chess.... and how will it compare to the i9 Chip?

The waiting is long and killing me as I am about to put together a new computer an awaiting better understanding on these 2 chips.

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Lion wrote:It is still very difficult to know if this chip will good for chess.... and how will it compare to the i9 Chip?
Why is it difficult? it's basically two Rizen 7 mashed together, and we know how that one compares to... everything:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/965-2/p ... tives.html
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Ozymandias wrote:
Lion wrote:It is still very difficult to know if this chip will good for chess.... and how will it compare to the i9 Chip?
Why is it difficult? it's basically two Rizen 7 mashed together, and we know how that one compares to... everything:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/965-2/p ... tives.html
Thanks, so should we expect something in the range of 32'000 kn/s with stockfish 8 which would be very close to an i9 7980XE ?
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Lion wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
Lion wrote:It is still very difficult to know if this chip will good for chess.... and how will it compare to the i9 Chip?
Why is it difficult? it's basically two Rizen 7 mashed together, and we know how that one compares to... everything:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/965-2/p ... tives.html
Thanks, so should we expect something in the range of 32'000 kn/s with stockfish 8 which would be very close to an i9 7980XE ?
It should be north or 30 million, for sure, how that will compare to an unreleased CPU which base frequency remains unknown, is anyone's guess.
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Ozymandias wrote:
Lion wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
Lion wrote:It is still very difficult to know if this chip will good for chess.... and how will it compare to the i9 Chip?
Why is it difficult? it's basically two Rizen 7 mashed together, and we know how that one compares to... everything:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/965-2/p ... tives.html
Thanks, so should we expect something in the range of 32'000 kn/s with stockfish 8 which would be very close to an i9 7980XE ?
It should be north or 30 million, for sure, how that will compare to an unreleased CPU which base frequency remains unknown, is anyone's guess.
My best estimate - simply from extrapolating from data found on the internet is that SF would bench around ~40 M nps on i9 7980xe. Very rough - back of napkin type calc- could easily be off by more than 10% eitherway - there are no true benchmarks out there. There are benchmarks out there for i7900 - but until you see it you never know for sure.
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MikeB wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
Lion wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
Lion wrote:It is still very difficult to know if this chip will good for chess.... and how will it compare to the i9 Chip?
Why is it difficult? it's basically two Rizen 7 mashed together, and we know how that one compares to... everything:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/965-2/p ... tives.html
Thanks, so should we expect something in the range of 32'000 kn/s with stockfish 8 which would be very close to an i9 7980XE ?
It should be north or 30 million, for sure, how that will compare to an unreleased CPU which base frequency remains unknown, is anyone's guess.
My best estimate - simply from extrapolating from data found on the internet is that SF would bench around ~40 M nps on i9 7980xe. Very rough - back of napkin type calc- could easily be off by more than 10% eitherway - there are no true benchmarks out there. There are benchmarks out there for i7900 - but until you see it you never know for sure.
When you spend this much on a chess machine, might as well go the whole hog and buy a Xeon system.
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Werewolf wrote:
MikeB wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
Lion wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
Lion wrote:It is still very difficult to know if this chip will good for chess.... and how will it compare to the i9 Chip?
Why is it difficult? it's basically two Rizen 7 mashed together, and we know how that one compares to... everything:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/965-2/p ... tives.html
Thanks, so should we expect something in the range of 32'000 kn/s with stockfish 8 which would be very close to an i9 7980XE ?
It should be north or 30 million, for sure, how that will compare to an unreleased CPU which base frequency remains unknown, is anyone's guess.
My best estimate - simply from extrapolating from data found on the internet is that SF would bench around ~40 M nps on i9 7980xe. Very rough - back of napkin type calc- could easily be off by more than 10% eitherway - there are no true benchmarks out there. There are benchmarks out there for i7900 - but until you see it you never know for sure.
When you spend this much on a chess machine, might as well go the whole hog and buy a Xeon system.
The dual Epyc is not too shabby:
http://www.ipmanchess.yolasite.com/amd- ... -bench.php
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Dann Corbit wrote:
Werewolf wrote:
MikeB wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
Lion wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
Lion wrote:It is still very difficult to know if this chip will good for chess.... and how will it compare to the i9 Chip?
Why is it difficult? it's basically two Rizen 7 mashed together, and we know how that one compares to... everything:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/965-2/p ... tives.html
Thanks, so should we expect something in the range of 32'000 kn/s with stockfish 8 which would be very close to an i9 7980XE ?
It should be north or 30 million, for sure, how that will compare to an unreleased CPU which base frequency remains unknown, is anyone's guess.
My best estimate - simply from extrapolating from data found on the internet is that SF would bench around ~40 M nps on i9 7980xe. Very rough - back of napkin type calc- could easily be off by more than 10% eitherway - there are no true benchmarks out there. There are benchmarks out there for i7900 - but until you see it you never know for sure.
When you spend this much on a chess machine, might as well go the whole hog and buy a Xeon system.
The dual Epyc is not too shabby:
http://www.ipmanchess.yolasite.com/amd- ... -bench.php
86,375,777 NPS
I would normally be impressed with the 64 core Epyc but I have so much about engines not scaling beyond 16 cores that I can't get excited about it. I also wonder about its time to depth.
Advanced Micro Devices fan.