Komodo 11.2

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Re: Dynamism in Komodo 11.2

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Nordlandia wrote:Anil V Dharan: tell me the reason for not using Fritz 15.
Maybe because I like using Arena GUI for Testing ?
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Re: Komodo 11.2

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Graham Banks wrote:
lkaufman wrote:.......I'd bet a lot of money on any match between 11.2 and Houdini 5 at any reasonable time control.
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64666
Graham: do you intentionally avoid using 6-men EGTB, or is it because your current SSD is not fit enough?

Upgrading to 6-men syzygy should be prioritized.
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Re: Komodo 11.2

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Nordlandia wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
lkaufman wrote:.......I'd bet a lot of money on any match between 11.2 and Houdini 5 at any reasonable time control.
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64666
Graham: do you intentionally avoid using 6-men EGTB, or is it because your current SSD is not fit enough?

Upgrading to 6-men syzygy should be prioritized.
Space.
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Re: Komodo 11.2

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Do you plan purchase another SSD soon?

Samsung 960 EVO 256 GB edition is affordable and good enough for most engine testers.

As long your motherboard support M.2 SSDs
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Re: Komodo 11.2

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Nordlandia wrote:Do you plan purchase another SSD soon?

Samsung 960 EVO 256 GB edition is affordable and good enough for most engine testers.

As long your motherboard support M.2 SSDs
Unfortunately, I'm on a tight budget, as we're a sole income family.
No big plans at present.

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Re: Komodo 11.2

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Space is not the only issue. On long time control the O/S keeps on caching 6-men access until the RAM on your machine is full and it starts swapping, and then you can throw your testing out the window. Would not happen at blitz, it may not happen at 40/40 either but I don't know.
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Re: Komodo 11.2

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Modern Times wrote:Space is not the only issue. On long time control the O/S keeps on caching 6-men access until the RAM on your machine is full and it starts swapping, and then you can throw your testing out the window. Would not happen at blitz, it may not happen at 40/40 either but I don't know.
So probing 6-men will eventually backfire unless sufficient enough RAM installed. Once main RAM get full, doesn't windows keep filling up storage and retrieves data from secondary storage for use in main memory?

Swapping - Paging ->

When your computer runs out of memory, your computer will start to use the hard drive space for "Virtual Memory"

I got about 50 GB left on my M.2 SSD. Is it possible to make windows select that one once memory get filled up?
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Re: Komodo 11.2

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It isn't the same as normal paging or swapping. It is quite technical. There are some posts on here somewhere about it.
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Re: Dynamism in Komodo 11.2

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shrapnel wrote:
lkaufman wrote: You said "left at 80", which implies that the default is 80.
Granted. My bad.
I usually play at 4'+2'' or 5'+1" on Infinity Chess or while Testing on Arena GUI. No time nowadays for my favorite LTC games.
Yes, my opinion is mostly based on results, but yes, sometimes I've observed that Komodo shows a over-optimistic evaluation which changes later.
Number of Threads is 8 because I use 8-Core Processors.
I've tried HT ON also, but using 12-14 Threads doesn't really seem to make a positive difference.
OK, I did some tests at 3' + 1" of Dynamism 130 (the value that is currently testing as best) vs 80 (your value). On one thread Dyn 130 won by 80 elo (!!) (that is not a typo!) after 754 games. On four threads Dyn 130 is currently ahead by 140 Elo (!!!) after 67 games. I agree that Dyn 80 seems to give more reasonable evals, but it's hard to argue with statistics like these. It seems this Dyn parameter is very important.
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Re: Dynamism in Komodo 11.2

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lkaufman wrote:OK, I did some tests at 3' + 1" of Dynamism 130 (the value that is currently testing as best) vs 80 (your value). On one thread Dyn 130 won by 80 elo (!!) (that is not a typo!) after 754 games. On four threads Dyn 130 is currently ahead by 140 Elo (!!!) after 67 games. I agree that Dyn 80 seems to give more reasonable evals, but it's hard to argue with statistics like these. It seems this Dyn parameter is very important.
Interesting. I'll give 120-130 Dynamism a shot again and see.
I was getting too many Draws with Dynamism 80, anyway.
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