Komodo thinks 46...Nf6 is = until played

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Hurnavich
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Komodo thinks 46...Nf6 is = until played

Post by Hurnavich »

As does other engines

[pgn][Event "Komodo 11.2 LTC vs SF 150717 "]
[Site "Hurnavich-PC"]
[Date "2017.07.20"]
[Round "22"]
[White "Stockfish 150717 MP"]
[Black "Komodo 11.2 64-bit LTC"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E99"]
[Annotator "0.40;0.80"]
[PlyCount "137"]
[TimeControl "300+2"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor 3625 MHz W=25.6 plies; 8,329kN/s; 900,
801 TBAs B=24.7 plies; 8,086kN/s; 757,173 TBAs} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7
4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. Nd3 f5 11.
Bd2 Nf6 12. f3 f4 13. c5 g5 14. Rc1 Ng6 15. Nb5 Rf7 16. Ba5 b6 17. cxd6 cxd6
18. Bb4 Bf8 19. Rc6 Ne8 {Both last book move} 20. a4 {0.40/24 20} a6 {0.80/26
12} 21. Na3 {0.45/27 12} Bd7 {0.78/26 24} 22. Rc1 {0.42/25 4} a5 {0.79/26 9}
23. Be1 {0.23/27 17} Nf6 {0.80/24 12} 24. Nf2 {0.18/24 2} h5 {0.80/23 6} 25. b3
{0.29/28 44} Rg7 {0.83/24 25} 26. Rc2 {0.41/24 8 (Kh1)} Rc8 {0.79/25 20} 27.
Rxc8 {0.42/25 12} Bxc8 {0.83/25 11} 28. Nc4 {0.50/26 18} Rb7 {0.79/22 8 (Bd7)}
29. Qc2 {0.63/24 8 (Kh1)} Nd7 {0.93/25 29 (g4)} 30. Nd3 {0.97/26 6 (Kh1)} Rc7 {
1.12/27 19 (Rb8)} 31. b4 {0.94/25 3} Ba6 {1.11/27 7} 32. b5 {1.06/29 7} Bc8 {
1.10/26 12 (Bb7)} 33. Bf2 {1.23/26 6} h4 {1.13/26 12 (Bb7)} 34. Rc1 {1.27/29
19 (Qa2)} Bb7 {1.28/26 8} 35. Qd1 {1.69/29 25} Kg7 {1.63/27 18 (Ba8)} 36. Kh1 {
1.93/29 18} Ba8 {1.68/26 12} 37. Qf1 {1.80/23 2 (Qe1)} Ra7 {1.76/24 6 (Kh8)}
38. g3 {2.01/24 6 (Qg1)} fxg3 {1.63/26 23} 39. hxg3 {1.75/23 2} hxg3 {1.72/24 3
} 40. Bxg3 {2.06/24 5} Rc7 {1.80/25 12} 41. Bf2 {2.17/24 2} Be7 {2.22/25 20
(Bb7)} 42. Qh3 {2.18/26 12 (Kg1)} Bb7 {2.10/25 16} 43. Be3 {2.18/23 2} Bc8 {2.
07/25 3} 44. Qh5 {2.36/27 12} Nf6 {2.09/26 4} 45. Qh2 {2.24/28 13} Nd7 {2.27/
24 3} 46. Qh5 {2.22/27 7 (Kg2)} Nf6 {0.00/30 2} 47. Qh2 {2.48/27 7} Nd7 {2.10/
25 2} 48. Kg2 {2.49/26 7} Nh4+ {2.35/24 14 (Qf8)} 49. Kf2 {2.81/22 3} Kf7 {2.
36/23 9} 50. Ke1 {3.21/23 7 (Qh1)} Kg8 {2.58/22 6 (Kg7)} 51. Kd2 {3.37/23 4
(Qg1)} Kg7 {2.94/23 5} 52. Qg1 {3.68/23 5 (Qf2)} Ng6 {3.37/23 5 (Kg8)} 53. Nxb6
{3.81/23 4} Rxc1 {3.48/21 2} 54. Kxc1 {3.85/19 1 (Nxc1)} Qc7+ {3.29/24 5} 55.
Kd2 {4.34/25 5} Nxb6 {3.49/27 5} 56. Bxb6 {4.68/25 3} Qc4 {3.50/27 1} 57. Qc1 {
4.80/24 1} Qxa4 {3.50/27 2} 58. Qxc8 {4.92/27 8} Qxb5 {4.00/26 15} 59. Be3 {4.
60/22 1} Nf4 {3.91/25 6 (Qb1)} 60. Qc3 {5.12/24 3} Qb1 {4.14/23 2} 61. Nxf4 {
5.14/24 2} gxf4 {4.28/23 4} 62. Bxf4 {5.31/25 3} Bd8 {4.21/23 1 (Bh4)} 63. Be3
{5.95/24 7} a4 {4.49/23 2} 64. Bd3 {6.25/24 3 (Bd1)} Qa2+ {4.75/20 2 (Qh1)} 65.
Bc2 {9.55/26 5} a3 {4.90/23 2} 66. f4 {15.04/29 9 (Qb4)} Qb2 {9.01/23 3} 67.
fxe5 {15.26/27 1} Qxc3+ {10.45/24 3} 68. Kxc3 {128.38/24 3} dxe5 {26.78/24 2
(a2)} 69. Bc5 {128.40/49 4} 1-0[/pgn]
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Re: Komodo thinks 46...Nf6 is = until played

Post by Guenther »

Hurnavich wrote:As does other engines

[pgn][Event "Komodo 11.2 LTC vs SF 150717 "]
[Site "Hurnavich-PC"]
[Date "2017.07.20"]
[Round "22"]
[White "Stockfish 150717 MP"]
[Black "Komodo 11.2 64-bit LTC"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E99"]
[Annotator "0.40;0.80"]
[PlyCount "137"]
[TimeControl "300+2"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor 3625 MHz W=25.6 plies; 8,329kN/s; 900,
801 TBAs B=24.7 plies; 8,086kN/s; 757,173 TBAs} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7
4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. Nd3 f5 11.
Bd2 Nf6 12. f3 f4 13. c5 g5 14. Rc1 Ng6 15. Nb5 Rf7 16. Ba5 b6 17. cxd6 cxd6
18. Bb4 Bf8 19. Rc6 Ne8 {Both last book move} 20. a4 {0.40/24 20} a6 {0.80/26
12} 21. Na3 {0.45/27 12} Bd7 {0.78/26 24} 22. Rc1 {0.42/25 4} a5 {0.79/26 9}
23. Be1 {0.23/27 17} Nf6 {0.80/24 12} 24. Nf2 {0.18/24 2} h5 {0.80/23 6} 25. b3
{0.29/28 44} Rg7 {0.83/24 25} 26. Rc2 {0.41/24 8 (Kh1)} Rc8 {0.79/25 20} 27.
Rxc8 {0.42/25 12} Bxc8 {0.83/25 11} 28. Nc4 {0.50/26 18} Rb7 {0.79/22 8 (Bd7)}
29. Qc2 {0.63/24 8 (Kh1)} Nd7 {0.93/25 29 (g4)} 30. Nd3 {0.97/26 6 (Kh1)} Rc7 {
1.12/27 19 (Rb8)} 31. b4 {0.94/25 3} Ba6 {1.11/27 7} 32. b5 {1.06/29 7} Bc8 {
1.10/26 12 (Bb7)} 33. Bf2 {1.23/26 6} h4 {1.13/26 12 (Bb7)} 34. Rc1 {1.27/29
19 (Qa2)} Bb7 {1.28/26 8} 35. Qd1 {1.69/29 25} Kg7 {1.63/27 18 (Ba8)} 36. Kh1 {
1.93/29 18} Ba8 {1.68/26 12} 37. Qf1 {1.80/23 2 (Qe1)} Ra7 {1.76/24 6 (Kh8)}
38. g3 {2.01/24 6 (Qg1)} fxg3 {1.63/26 23} 39. hxg3 {1.75/23 2} hxg3 {1.72/24 3
} 40. Bxg3 {2.06/24 5} Rc7 {1.80/25 12} 41. Bf2 {2.17/24 2} Be7 {2.22/25 20
(Bb7)} 42. Qh3 {2.18/26 12 (Kg1)} Bb7 {2.10/25 16} 43. Be3 {2.18/23 2} Bc8 {2.
07/25 3} 44. Qh5 {2.36/27 12} Nf6 {2.09/26 4} 45. Qh2 {2.24/28 13} Nd7 {2.27/
24 3} 46. Qh5 {2.22/27 7 (Kg2)} Nf6 {0.00/30 2} 47. Qh2 {2.48/27 7} Nd7 {2.10/
25 2} 48. Kg2 {2.49/26 7} Nh4+ {2.35/24 14 (Qf8)} 49. Kf2 {2.81/22 3} Kf7 {2.
36/23 9} 50. Ke1 {3.21/23 7 (Qh1)} Kg8 {2.58/22 6 (Kg7)} 51. Kd2 {3.37/23 4
(Qg1)} Kg7 {2.94/23 5} 52. Qg1 {3.68/23 5 (Qf2)} Ng6 {3.37/23 5 (Kg8)} 53. Nxb6
{3.81/23 4} Rxc1 {3.48/21 2} 54. Kxc1 {3.85/19 1 (Nxc1)} Qc7+ {3.29/24 5} 55.
Kd2 {4.34/25 5} Nxb6 {3.49/27 5} 56. Bxb6 {4.68/25 3} Qc4 {3.50/27 1} 57. Qc1 {
4.80/24 1} Qxa4 {3.50/27 2} 58. Qxc8 {4.92/27 8} Qxb5 {4.00/26 15} 59. Be3 {4.
60/22 1} Nf4 {3.91/25 6 (Qb1)} 60. Qc3 {5.12/24 3} Qb1 {4.14/23 2} 61. Nxf4 {
5.14/24 2} gxf4 {4.28/23 4} 62. Bxf4 {5.31/25 3} Bd8 {4.21/23 1 (Bh4)} 63. Be3
{5.95/24 7} a4 {4.49/23 2} 64. Bd3 {6.25/24 3 (Bd1)} Qa2+ {4.75/20 2 (Qh1)} 65.
Bc2 {9.55/26 5} a3 {4.90/23 2} 66. f4 {15.04/29 9 (Qb4)} Qb2 {9.01/23 3} 67.
fxe5 {15.26/27 1} Qxc3+ {10.45/24 3} 68. Kxc3 {128.38/24 3} dxe5 {26.78/24 2
(a2)} 69. Bc5 {128.40/49 4} 1-0[/pgn]
You sure noticed that this is a two time repetition?
There are zillions of posts in the forum, which will explain it.
And this 0.00 will be showed only with the move history of the pgn,
if you load the plain position it will show the true score.

The only slighly remarkable is that Stockfish despite a score of +2.24
started the second repetition instead of the immediate 46. Kg2.

Guenther
https://rwbc-chess.de

trollwatch:
Talkchess nowadays is a joke - it is full of trolls/idiots/people stuck in the pleistocene > 80% of the posts fall into this category...
Hurnavich
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Re: Komodo thinks 46...Nf6 is = until played

Post by Hurnavich »

I had not noticed this many thanks, as you say pasting the game position shows the true score.
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Re: Komodo thinks 46...Nf6 is = until played

Post by Hurnavich »

What do you think went wrong in this game? evals were strange.

[pgn][Event "Komodo 11.2 LTC vs SF 150717"]
[Site "Hurnavich-PC"]
[Date "2017.07.19"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Komodo 11.2 64-bit LTC"]
[Black "Stockfish 150717 MP"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E99"]
[Annotator "0.11;0.00"]
[PlyCount "252"]
[TimeControl "300+2"]

{AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor 3625 MHz W=30.7 plies; 10,115kN/s; 61,
887,783 TBAs B=44.6 plies; 10,367kN/s; 16,938,190 TBAs} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3.
Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. Nd3
f5 11. Bd2 Nf6 12. f3 f4 13. g4 g5 14. Be1 h5 15. h3 Ng6 {Both last book move}
16. c5 {0.11/23 11} Kf7 {0.00/27 17} 17. Rc1 {0.22/25 28 (Kg2)} Rh8 {0.00/25 7}
18. Bf2 {0.22/22 5 (Kg2)} hxg4 {-0.52/25 13 (Rh6)} 19. hxg4 {0.21/24 7} Nh5 {
-0.34/28 14 (Rh6)} 20. Kg2 {-0.14/22 7} Ng3 {-0.13/24 1} 21. Bxg3 {-0.07/22 5}
fxg3 {-0.15/30 18} 22. Kxg3 {0.00/24 9} dxc5 {-0.26/23 2} 23. Nxc5 {0.00/25 17}
Nf4 {-0.25/30 30 (Qf6)} 24. Rh1 {0.00/26 9} Rxh1 {-0.23/30 3} 25. Qxh1 {0.00/
25 4} Qd6 {0.00/33 19 (Qe7)} 26. Qg1 {-0.17/27 10} b6 {0.00/30 4} 27. Nd3 {-0.
18/28 8} Bd7 {0.00/33 11} 28. Rc2 {-0.29/28 29 (Bf1)} Rh8 {-0.46/26 9} 29. Bf1
{0.00/24 5} Rh4 {-0.23/22 1} 30. Rh2 {-0.31/26 7} Qf6 {-0.24/30 12} 31. Qe3 {
-0.27/28 12} Bf8 {-0.40/28 2} 32. Rxh4 {-0.28/28 9} gxh4+ {-0.41/30 21} 33. Kh2
{-0.46/26 4} Nxd3 {-0.48/29 3} 34. Bxd3 {-0.26/26 5} Bc5 {-0.37/31 13} 35. Qe2
{-0.28/26 5} Qf4+ {-0.44/28 3} 36. Kh1 {-0.50/26 4} Qc1+ {-0.48/31 13 (a6)} 37.
Nd1 {-0.21/26 5} Qf4 {-0.13/31 17 (a5)} 38. Qf1 {-0.28/25 18 (Nc3)} Bd4 {-0.49/
29 6} 39. Be2 {-0.37/25 9 (Nc3)} Qd2 {-0.72/28 8} 40. b3 {-0.54/25 12} Qxa2 {
-1.12/28 25} 41. Qe1 {-0.64/26 8} Be8 {-1.51/35 48 (Bc5)} 42. Bc4 {-0.94/26 10
(Qf1)} h3 {-1.30/34 10} 43. Qe2 {-1.29/28 8} Qxe2 {-1.30/32 1} 44. Bxe2 {-1.19/
28 3} a5 {-1.18/35 6} 45. Kh2 {-1.20/28 3} c5 {-0.98/30 1 (b5)} 46. dxc6 {-0.
85/28 4} Bxc6 {-1.40/33 5} 47. Kxh3 {-0.79/31 4} Bd7 {-1.06/30 1 (b5)} 48. Bd3
{-0.51/28 3} b5 {-1.04/35 4} 49. Kg3 {-0.65/29 4} a4 {-0.97/34 1} 50. bxa4 {-0.
52/30 5 (f4)} bxa4 {-0.37/35 10} 51. f4 {-0.48/31 5} Be6 {-0.37/39 4 (a3)} 52.
Kf3 {-0.37/29 3} a3 {0.00/35 21} 53. Bb1 {-0.06/30 10} a2 {0.00/41 1} 54. Bxa2
{-0.02/31 2} Bxa2 {0.00/45 3} 55. g5 {-0.02/35 2} exf4 {0.00/48 2} 56. Kxf4 {
-0.02/43 4} Bb1 {0.00/60 3 (Be6)} 57. Ne3 {-0.02/42 2} Ba2 {0.00/64 2 (Ke6)}
58. Nd1 {-0.02/43 3 (g6+)} Bb1 {0.00/61 3 (Be6)} 59. Ne3 {-0.02/42 2} Ke6 {0.
00/62 1} 60. Nd5 {-0.02/43 3} Ba2 {0.00/60 2 (Bc5)} 61. Kf3 {-0.02/40 4 (g6)}
Bb1 {0.00/65 2 (Be5)} 62. Kf4 {-0.02/40 3} Ba2 {0.00/66 1 (Bc2)} 63. Nc7+ {-0.
02/42 4 (g6)} Kf7 {0.00/60 2} 64. Nd5 {-0.02/45 5 (Kf5)} Kg6 {0.00/60 3 (Bb3)}
65. Ne7+ {-0.02/47 3} Kh7 {0.00/63 1} 66. g6+ {-0.02/43 2} Kh8 {0.00/68 3} 67.
Nf5 {-0.02/47 4 (g7+)} Bc3 {0.00/60 3} 68. e5 {-0.02/46 3} Kg8 {0.00/70 2 (Be6)
} 69. Kg5 {-0.02/56 5 (e6)} Bxe5 {0.00/124 2} 70. Nh6+ {-0.02/36 4} Kg7 {0.00/
31 1 (Kf8)} 71. Nf5+ {-0.02/39 4} Kf8 {0.00/1 0} 72. Nh6 {-0.02/36 3 (Kh6)} Bc3
{0.00/36 2 (Bb1)} 73. Nf5 {-0.02/40 3} Bb1 {0.00/1 0 (Bb2)} 74. Kf4 {-0.02/41
18} Bf6 {0.00/1 0 (Bb2)} 75. Kg4 {-0.02/38 3} Ke8 {0.00/4 0 (Be4)} 76. Kf4 {-0.
02/37 3 (Ne3)} Kd7 {0.00/1 0 (Bb2)} 77. g7 {-0.02/5 0} Ba2 {0.00/2 0} 78. Ke3 {
-0.02/31 2 (Ke4)} Bg8 {0.00/1 0} 79. Ke4 {-0.02/37 3 (Kf4)} Ke6 {0.00/3 0 (Kc6)
} 80. Nd4+ {-0.02/5 0 (Ng3)} Kf7 {0.00/3 0 (Kd6)} 81. Kd5 {-0.02/29 3 (Kd3)}
Kxg7+ {0.00/43 3 (Bxg7)} 82. Ke4 {-0.02/39 3} Kf7 {0.00/1 0 (Kf8)} 83. Kd5 {-0.
02/35 2 (Nb5)} Ke7+ {0.00/1 0} 84. Ke4 {-0.02/35 7 (Kc5)} Kd6 {0.00/3 0} 85.
Nf5+ {-0.02/37 2} Kc6 {0.00/49 5 (Kc5)} 86. Ne3 {-0.02/37 3} Bh7+ {0.00/1 0}
87. Nf5 {-0.02/41 2 (Kf4)} Kd7 {0.00/51 3 (Kc5)} 88. Kf4 {-#1000/41 2} Ke6 {-0.
43/1 0} 89. Ne3 {-#1000/39 3 (Nh6)} Be5+ {-0.43/55 4 (Bg7)} 90. Kf3 {-#1000/39
3 (Kg5)} Bc7 {-0.43/53 3 (Bg7)} 91. Ng4 {-#1000/39 3 (Nd1)} Bg6 {-0.43/55 4
(Bb6)} 92. Nf2 {-#1000/34 2} Kd5 {-128.51/49 5 (Ke5)} 93. Ke3 {-#1000/33 2}
Bb6+ {-128.51/53 3} 94. Kf3 {-#1000/34 1} Bh5+ {-128.51/55 1} 95. Kg3 {-#1000/
35 2} Bc7+ {-128.51/56 4 (Be2)} 96. Kh4 {-#1000/35 2} Bg6 {-128.51/37 1 (Be2)}
97. Kg5 {-#1000/32 7 (Ng4)} Bc2 {-128.51/41 2} 98. Kg4 {-#1000/12 2 (Ng4)} Kd4
{-128.51/47 5} 99. Nh3 {-#1000/29 2} Ba4 {-128.51/47 9} 100. Ng5 {-#1000/29 2}
Bd7+ {-128.51/30 0 (Ke5)} 101. Kf3 {-#1000/31 2 (Kh5)} Ke5 {-128.51/51 2} 102.
Kg2 {-#1000/29 2 (Ke3)} Kf4 {-128.51/54 2} 103. Nh3+ {-#1000/31 2} Ke3 {-128.
51/50 1} 104. Ng5 {-#1000/37 4} Ke2 {-128.51/42 2 (Be5)} 105. Nh3 {-#1000/27
21 (Nf7)} Bc6+ {-#26/36 2} 106. Kg1 {-#1000/5 0} Be5 {-#25/43 1 (Kf3)} 107. Ng5
{-#30/24 1} Bd4+ {-#21/50 3 (Bf6)} 108. Kh2 {-#1000/5 0} Bf6 {-#20/51 1} 109.
Nh7 {-#37/24 1} Be7 {-#19/53 4} 110. Kg3 {-#30/25 0} Be4 {-#18/40 1} 111. Nf8 {
-#24/27 0 (Kf4)} Bxf8 {-#16/52 2} 112. Kf4 {-#20/30 0} Kd3 {-#15/49 1 (Bb1)}
113. Ke5 {-#18/30 0} Ke3 {-#14/52 3 (Bc6)} 114. Ke6 {-#15/31 1 (Kf6)} Kf4 {
-#13/54 4} 115. Kd7 {-#13/32 0 (Kf7)} Ke5 {-#12/52 3 (Bc5)} 116. Kc7 {-#12/31
0 (Ke8)} Bc5 {-#11/50 3} 117. Kd7 {-#10/33 0} Kd5 {-#10/51 0} 118. Kc7 {-#9/34
0} Bf5 {-#9/58 2} 119. Kb7 {-#8/37 0} Kd6 {-#8/59 1} 120. Ka6 {-#7/40 0} Kc6 {
-#7/65 3} 121. Ka5 {-#6/5 0} Bc2 {-#6/68 1} 122. Ka6 {-#5/5 0} Bb4 {-#5/86 3}
123. Ka7 {-#4/5 0} Kc7 {-#4/91 1} 124. Ka6 {-#3/99 0 (Ka8)} Bd3+ {-#3/127 2}
125. Ka7 {-#2/5 0} Bc5+ {-#2/127 0} 126. Ka8 {-#1/5 0} Be4# {-#1/127 0} 0-1

[/pgn]
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