you can draw nothing, I have checked this thousands times; have played thousand games with SF and Komodo, and have substantially analysed it.mbabigian wrote:I think I can draw this line as well. So again, I suspect the line is not busted and that a high white eval is not warranted. However, after white's Nf3, I'd play Nbc6Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:so far, for the f4 line I have:
f4 b6 Bb5 Bd7 Bd3 Ba4 Nf3 a6(to change bishops via b5 with draw) Rb1 Nd7 0-0 c4 Be2 0-0 g4:
[d]r2q1rk1/3nnppp/pp2p3/3pP3/b1pP1PP1/P1P2N2/2P1B2P/1RBQ1RK1 b - g3 0 9
and white has almost won
any suggestions for improvements for black?
[d]r2qk2r/p3nppp/1pn1p3/2ppP3/b2P1P2/P1PB1N2/2P3PP/R1BQK2R w KQkq - 0 11
Your turn.
that said, I have analysed only 90% of the lines, some 10% always tend to escape my attention, but I think this is just about natural.
you can not know and prove everything.
so far, you have not drawn even a single game against me.
if you have been looking at the games played with Louis, in both games white has the advantage, but I played some weak moves in the first game, that is why the advantage slipped away.
that does not mean the line is bad for white, just that I played some average moves.
the second game, with the f4 line is still not finished, white has the advantage there as well, no matter what SF will show.
when I started this, I stated the Winaver is lost, at least in some 90% of all lines, and I can easily prove that.
for example, black castling short is lost, and that is how some 80% of human games are played, so I am very correct on that.
Louis/Botvinnik's line with castling long gives best saving chances, I never explored it till the end, might be draw with perfect play, but I am not certain, white still retains quite some advantage.
Louis' SF played 2 excellent/over-outstanding moves, f5 and 0-0-0, without any of those 2 black is simply busted.
sorry, but will post some lines only later, very busy now, not clear-headed, so my first move might be a mistake.
if you want to repeat Louis line, with f5 and castling long, then it does not quite make sense to repeat it, but, if you will castle short, no matter if f5 is played or not, I can certainly demonstrate a very convincing white win.