On-line engine blitz tourney August

hgm · Post by **hgm** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:36 pm

petero2 wrote:The other solutions given in this thread (examine and smoves) are also very useful, but thinking times and scores are not included in the pgn in that case.

Actually the ICS does record score/depth and time as comments with the games, but unfortunately the smoves command does not display those (as the prescribed output command expected by the clients is not PGN). There is a command to mail games to yourself in PGN format ('mailstored' IIRC). Those would contain this additional info.

But unfortunately, ever since I moved to the VPS, mailing from the ICS has not been working, as I could not use the smtp server of my normal internet provider anymore. To fix that has been on my to-do list for a long time, but I lack the Linux expertise to set up my own smtp server. I also have a provider-independent e-mail address, however, and it should be willing to process deposited mail from any IP address, as long as I provide the right password. Perhaps I could set up the ICS to use that one. Although I am also not sure how to do that. IIRC the ICS code came with a script that you could run as a daemon, which was using 'sendmail' on any file the ICS dumped in a certain spooler directory. (I am pretty sure there will be lots of files waiting in that directory by now...)

Henk · Post by **Henk** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:53 pm

Added a check to king safety and center control. Previously Skipper would have been brutally slaughtered by a vicious king attack. Might also be that KingSlayer chose a non-aggressive opening. For instance for a king attack you need a bishop on b1-h7 diagonal and not on g2. Also Queen-exchange helped.

[pgn]
[Event "ICS rated blitz match"]
[Site "winboard.nl"]
[Date "2017.08.19"]
[Round "-"]
[White "KingSlayer"]
[Black "Skipper"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1457"]
[BlackElo "1076"]
[TimeControl "300+1"]
[Annotator "3. +0.00 1... -0.01"]

1. Nf3 e6 {-0.01/110 5} 2. g3 Bd6 {+0.09/100 5} 3. Nc3 {+0.00/13 5} Nf6
{+0.30/90 5} 4. d4 {+0.00/13 5} O-O {+0.40/100 5} 5. Bg2 {+0.00/12 5} Nc6
{+0.11/100 5} 6. O-O {+0.00/12 4} Be7 {+0.17/100 4} 7. h3 {+0.00/12 4} Rb8
{+0.29/100 4} 8. Kh1 {+0.10/11 4} d6 {+0.33/100 4} 9. Bg5 {+0.05/11 4} Nd5
{+0.27/100 4} 10. Bxe7 {+0.00/11 4} Qxe7 {+0.37/110 4} 11. Ne4 {+0.00/11 4}
f5 {+0.47/100 4} 12. Ned2 {+0.00/12 4} f4 {+0.47/100 4} 13. c4 {+0.00/12 4}
Nb6 {-0.19/100 4} 14. e4 {+0.00/11 4} fxe3 {+1.01/100 4} 15. fxe3
{+0.00/12 4} Qe8 {+1.01/90 4} 16. Ng5 {+0.11/10 4} Rxf1+ {+0.91/100 4} 17.
Bxf1 {+0.14/11 4} Nd8 {+0.81/100 4} 18. Bd3 {+0.33/11 4} h6 {+0.71/100 4}
19. Ngf3 {+0.40/11 4} Qh5 {+0.23/110 3} 20. Nh4 {+0.30/12 3} Qxd1+
{+0.15/120 3} 21. Rxd1 {+0.31/13 3} Na4 {+0.05/110 3} 22. Rb1 {+0.50/12 3}
Nc6 {-0.04/100 3} 23. c5 {+0.50/12 3} dxc5 {+0.06/120 3} 24. Bb5
{+0.83/14 3} cxd4 {+0.16/120 3} 25. Bxa4 {+0.89/14 3} dxe3 {+0.29/110 3}
26. Bxc6 {+0.94/15 3} bxc6 {+0.25/110 3} 27. Nc4 {+0.97/14 3} e2
{+0.52/110 3} 28. Re1 {+0.87/13 3} Ba6 {+0.42/130 3} 29. b3 {+1.00/15 3}
Bxc4 {+0.32/130 3} 30. bxc4 {+1.12/15 2.9} Rb2 {+0.20/120 3} 31. a3
{+1.16/15 2.9} c5 {+0.40/110 2.9} 32. Kg1 {+1.24/14 2.9} Rc2
{+0.31/110 2.9} 33. Kf2 {+1.12/15 2.8} Rxc4 {+0.21/120 2.8} 34. Rxe2
{+1.11/15 2.8} Kf7 {+0.11/120 2.8} 35. Nf3 {+1.21/14 2.7} Rc3
{+0.01/110 2.7} 36. Ne5+ {+1.27/14 2.7} Kg8 {+0.00/120 2.6} 37. Re3
{+1.80/14 2.6} Rc2+ {+0.00/120 2.6} 38. Kf3 {+1.82/15 2.6} Ra2
{+0.00/110 2.6} 39. Nc6 {+2.09/14 2.6} Ra1 {-0.68/100 2.5} 40. Nxa7
{+2.30/13 2.5} c4 {-1.38/90 2.5} 41. Nb5 {+2.58/13 2.5} c6 {-1.48/110 2.4}
42. Nd4 {+2.75/13 2.4} h5 {-1.58/100 2.4} 43. Nxe6 {+3.05/13 2.4} Rb1
{-1.89/110 2.4} 44. Ke4 {+3.41/12 2.3} Rb3 {-1.82/100 2.3} 45. Nc5
{+3.66/14 2.3} Rb2 {-1.92/110 2.3} 46. Kd4 {+3.81/14 2.3} Rh2
{-2.02/110 2.3} 47. h4 {+3.80/13 2.2} Rc2 {-2.12/110 2.2} 48. Rc3
{+4.13/13 2.2} Rxc3 {-2.98/100 2.2} 49. Kxc3 {+9.88/16 2.1} Kf7
{-3.08/110 2.2} 50. a4 {+10.52/16 2.1} Kf8 {-8.09/110 2.1} 51. a5
{+13.43/14 2.0} Ke7 {-8.19/120 2.1} 52. a6 {+13.52/14 2.0} Kd6
{-13.71/110 2.0} 53. Kxc4 {+14.56/14} Ke5 {-13.81/110 2.1} 54. a7
{+15.26/14} Kf5 {-13.91/100 2.0} 55. a8=Q {+15.64/13} Kg4 {-14.01/110 1.9}
56. Qc8+ {+79.91/12} Kxg3 {-14.11/110 1.9} 57. Qf5 {+79.95/17} Kxh4
{-2621.36/110 1.9} 58. Ne4 {+79.97/28} g5 {-2621.38/110 1.8} 59. Qxg5+
{+79.98/28} Kh3 {-2621.40/120 1.9} 60. Qg3#
{Skipper checkmated} 1-0
[/pgn]

Skipper back to 1087. Don't know yet if this an all time low for Skipper.

cetormenter · Post by **cetormenter** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:13 pm

Modern Times wrote:
brtzsnr wrote:
petero2 wrote: For the future it would be nice if all games in the tourney could be saved automatically.
You can retrieve the games using history and examine.

http://www.freechess.org/Help/HelpFiles/history.html
http://www.freechess.org/Help/HelpFiles/examine.html
Very useful. I wasn't at home for the tournament so I didn't know Nirvana's game results until now:
Code: Select all
59&#58; + 2137 W 1617 Nemeton       &#91; br  5   1&#93; B27 Mat Sat Aug 19 21&#58;17&#58;31 2017
60&#58; = 2129 W 1871 gogobello     &#91; br  5   1&#93; C89  50 Sat Aug 19 21&#58;31&#58;55 2017
61&#58; + 2133 B 1822 Zurichess     &#91; br  5   1&#93; C30 Mat Sat Aug 19 21&#58;44&#58;05 2017
62&#58; - 2128 B 2379 McBrain       &#91; br  5   1&#93; A59 Mat Sat Aug 19 21&#58;59&#58;19 2017
63&#58; + 2133 W 1905 Baron         &#91; br  5   1&#93; D11 Mat Sat Aug 19 22&#58;11&#58;40 2017
64&#58; = 2128 W 1967 Berta         &#91; br  5   1&#93; A09  50 Sat Aug 19 22&#58;28&#58;13 2017
65&#58; = 2126 B 2065 ArasanX       &#91; br  5   1&#93; E32 Rep Sat Aug 19 22&#58;40&#58;20 2017
66&#58; + 2128 B 1716 rpiArminius   &#91; br  5   1&#93; A45 Res Sat Aug 19 22&#58;54&#58;31 2017
67&#58; = 2130 W 2185 Fizbo         &#91; br  5   1&#93; D43  NM Sat Aug 19 23&#58;09&#58;07 2017
Seems I never got to play Texel, assuming I did that correctly.

Thank you for running Nirvana in these monthly tournaments! Some fairly decent results here.

Henk · Post by **Henk** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:43 am

Henk wrote:Added a check to king safety and center control. Previously Skipper would have been brutally slaughtered by a vicious king attack. Might also be that KingSlayer chose a non-aggressive opening. For instance for a king attack you need a bishop on b1-h7 diagonal and not on g2. Also Queen-exchange helped.

[pgn]
[Event "ICS rated blitz match"]
[Site "winboard.nl"]
[Date "2017.08.19"]
[Round "-"]
[White "KingSlayer"]
[Black "Skipper"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1457"]
[BlackElo "1076"]
[TimeControl "300+1"]
[Annotator "3. +0.00 1... -0.01"]

1. Nf3 e6 {-0.01/110 5} 2. g3 Bd6 {+0.09/100 5} 3. Nc3 {+0.00/13 5} Nf6
{+0.30/90 5} 4. d4 {+0.00/13 5} O-O {+0.40/100 5} 5. Bg2 {+0.00/12 5} Nc6
{+0.11/100 5} 6. O-O {+0.00/12 4} Be7 {+0.17/100 4} 7. h3 {+0.00/12 4} Rb8
{+0.29/100 4} 8. Kh1 {+0.10/11 4} d6 {+0.33/100 4} 9. Bg5 {+0.05/11 4} Nd5
{+0.27/100 4} 10. Bxe7 {+0.00/11 4} Qxe7 {+0.37/110 4} 11. Ne4 {+0.00/11 4}
f5 {+0.47/100 4} 12. Ned2 {+0.00/12 4} f4 {+0.47/100 4} 13. c4 {+0.00/12 4}
Nb6 {-0.19/100 4} 14. e4 {+0.00/11 4} fxe3 {+1.01/100 4} 15. fxe3
{+0.00/12 4} Qe8 {+1.01/90 4} 16. Ng5 {+0.11/10 4} Rxf1+ {+0.91/100 4} 17.
Bxf1 {+0.14/11 4} Nd8 {+0.81/100 4} 18. Bd3 {+0.33/11 4} h6 {+0.71/100 4}
19. Ngf3 {+0.40/11 4} Qh5 {+0.23/110 3} 20. Nh4 {+0.30/12 3} Qxd1+
{+0.15/120 3} 21. Rxd1 {+0.31/13 3} Na4 {+0.05/110 3} 22. Rb1 {+0.50/12 3}
Nc6 {-0.04/100 3} 23. c5 {+0.50/12 3} dxc5 {+0.06/120 3} 24. Bb5
{+0.83/14 3} cxd4 {+0.16/120 3} 25. Bxa4 {+0.89/14 3} dxe3 {+0.29/110 3}
26. Bxc6 {+0.94/15 3} bxc6 {+0.25/110 3} 27. Nc4 {+0.97/14 3} e2
{+0.52/110 3} 28. Re1 {+0.87/13 3} Ba6 {+0.42/130 3} 29. b3 {+1.00/15 3}
Bxc4 {+0.32/130 3} 30. bxc4 {+1.12/15 2.9} Rb2 {+0.20/120 3} 31. a3
{+1.16/15 2.9} c5 {+0.40/110 2.9} 32. Kg1 {+1.24/14 2.9} Rc2
{+0.31/110 2.9} 33. Kf2 {+1.12/15 2.8} Rxc4 {+0.21/120 2.8} 34. Rxe2
{+1.11/15 2.8} Kf7 {+0.11/120 2.8} 35. Nf3 {+1.21/14 2.7} Rc3
{+0.01/110 2.7} 36. Ne5+ {+1.27/14 2.7} Kg8 {+0.00/120 2.6} 37. Re3
{+1.80/14 2.6} Rc2+ {+0.00/120 2.6} 38. Kf3 {+1.82/15 2.6} Ra2
{+0.00/110 2.6} 39. Nc6 {+2.09/14 2.6} Ra1 {-0.68/100 2.5} 40. Nxa7
{+2.30/13 2.5} c4 {-1.38/90 2.5} 41. Nb5 {+2.58/13 2.5} c6 {-1.48/110 2.4}
42. Nd4 {+2.75/13 2.4} h5 {-1.58/100 2.4} 43. Nxe6 {+3.05/13 2.4} Rb1
{-1.89/110 2.4} 44. Ke4 {+3.41/12 2.3} Rb3 {-1.82/100 2.3} 45. Nc5
{+3.66/14 2.3} Rb2 {-1.92/110 2.3} 46. Kd4 {+3.81/14 2.3} Rh2
{-2.02/110 2.3} 47. h4 {+3.80/13 2.2} Rc2 {-2.12/110 2.2} 48. Rc3
{+4.13/13 2.2} Rxc3 {-2.98/100 2.2} 49. Kxc3 {+9.88/16 2.1} Kf7
{-3.08/110 2.2} 50. a4 {+10.52/16 2.1} Kf8 {-8.09/110 2.1} 51. a5
{+13.43/14 2.0} Ke7 {-8.19/120 2.1} 52. a6 {+13.52/14 2.0} Kd6
{-13.71/110 2.0} 53. Kxc4 {+14.56/14} Ke5 {-13.81/110 2.1} 54. a7
{+15.26/14} Kf5 {-13.91/100 2.0} 55. a8=Q {+15.64/13} Kg4 {-14.01/110 1.9}
56. Qc8+ {+79.91/12} Kxg3 {-14.11/110 1.9} 57. Qf5 {+79.95/17} Kxh4
{-2621.36/110 1.9} 58. Ne4 {+79.97/28} g5 {-2621.38/110 1.8} 59. Qxg5+
{+79.98/28} Kh3 {-2621.40/120 1.9} 60. Qg3#
{Skipper checkmated} 1-0
[/pgn]

Skipper back to 1087. Don't know yet if this an all time low for Skipper.

I need to rewrite Skippers SEE and SEEMove. I think they contain bad code. Something wrong there.

Guenther · Post by **Guenther** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:03 pm

hgm wrote:
Guenther wrote:Wouldn't it be useful to collect the full pgn after a tournament and make it available?
Useful, perhaps. (You are the first in all those years to ask this, which makes me wonder how many users there would be.) To do it by hand would certainly be a tedious task, as the ICS doesn't support any command for bulk-download of games.

I think there exists bots, however, that you can log on to the ICS during a tourney, and which then automatically request and save every game of the tourney as soon as mamer reports it finished. I don't have such a bot. but I vaguely recall Joshua Shriver made one.

BTW how far back does the history of games reach? I would like to collect as much games as I can get from previous monthly tournaments :)
The history goes back 40 games. This is already a change I made from the original ICS code, which only keeps the 10 latest games. The system is such that games have a two-digit number, which wraps on reaching 99.

Ok, it really seems tedious to collect the games for now.

Anyhow, if you won't mind I will set up some page at rwbc with all previous results and a few stats etc.?
Currently I have already collected manually all results from all your monthly tournaments plus important comments (and a few table fixes).
Two or three did not happen for various reasons.
My current count would be 97 (excluding the 'inofficial' test tourney for the ics bugfix), which means
in November there would be a nice 100th jubilee!

If there would be interest in the games, all participants ever could mail
what they have so far and I would clean up and publish them...

Congrats for that long time running tournament and your work on it.
Note that I missed most of it due to my long abscence, thus it may seem
my wish for the games came out the blue.

Guenther

Stan Arts · Post by **Stan Arts** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:40 pm

Nemeton held The Baron to a draw. One of it's lifetime high's.

Interestingly on only one cpu and most of it's reductions and pruning ripped out. Came to the conclusion my reductions/pruning didn't bring anything but extra code.
Searching 12 ply like this is tactically very bad but positionally very good. Suddenly my evaluation seems much better..

Daniel Anulliero · Post by **Daniel Anulliero** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:28 pm

Good and funny tournament , Isa made me happy by beating Floyd

(an engine stronger than Isa by +406 elo , see the 40/4 ccrl list ).
Of course its a lot of luck because the chances of winning one games vs a +400 engine is around 8% !

[pgn]
[Event "ICS Rated blitz match"]
[Site "winboard.nl"]
[Date "2017.08.21"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Isa"]
[Black "Floyd"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1346"]
[BlackElo "1603"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. Nc3 e5 3. Nxe5 d4 4. Nb1 Bd6 5. Nc4 Nf6 6. c3 Be6 7. Nxd6+
Qxd6 8. cxd4 Nc6 9. e3 O-O-O 10. Be2 Rhe8 11. Nc3 a6 12. d3 h5 13. Bd2 h4
14. O-O h3 15. g4 g6 16. Rc1 Bd5 17. f3 Nd7 18. e4 Nxd4 19. exd5 Nf6 20.
Ne4 Qb6 21. Rf2 Nxd5 22. Bf1 Rh8 23. Nc5 Qf6 24. Kh1 Kb8 25. Qa4 Nb6 26.
Qa5 Nd5 27. Ne4 Qg7 28. g5 c6 29. Rc4 Ne6 30. f4 Qh7 31. Rf3 Qh5 32. Be2
Rhe8 33. Rf2 Qh7 34. Kg1 Qh8 35. Bd1 Nd4 36. Nc5 Rd6 37. Rc1 Rdd8 38. Kh1
Qh4 39. Rf1 b6 40. Nxa6+ Kb7 41. Qa3 Ne2 42. Nc5+ bxc5 43. Qb3+ Kc7 44.
Rxc5 Nd4 45. Ba5+ Kc8 46. Qc4 Nc7 47. Rxc6 Nxc6 48. Qxc6 Re7 49. Bf3 Qxf4
50. Qb7+ Kd7 51. Bc6+ Ke6 52. Rxf4 f5 53. gxf6 Rxd3 54. Qc8+ Kd6 55. Qd8+
Kxc6 56. fxe7 Rxd8 57. exd8=Q Ne6 58. Rf6 Kc5 59. Rxe6 Kc4 60. b3+ Kc5 61.
Qg5+ Kd4 62. Qe5+ Kd3 63. Qc3#
{Black checkmated} 1-0
[/pgn]
see you next month !

Daniel Anulliero · Post by **Daniel Anulliero** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:30 pm

Stan Arts wrote:Nemeton held The Baron to a draw. One of it's lifetime high's.

Interestingly on only one cpu and most of it's reductions and pruning ripped out. Came to the conclusion my reductions/pruning didn't bring anything but extra code.
Searching 12 ply like this is tactically very bad but positionally very good. Suddenly my evaluation seems much better..

congratulations !

Guenther · Post by **Guenther** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:30 pm

Guenther wrote: My current count would be 97 (excluding the 'inofficial' test tourney for the ics bugfix), which means
in November there would be a nice 100th jubilee!

Damned I had a copy/paste error in my 'manual' count.

Exactly this last tournament was already the 100th monthly blitz tourney by HGM!!

Guenther

hgm · Post by **hgm** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:05 pm

Wow! I had not realized it was so many already.

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