A french defence game

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: A french defence game

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
nothing to reconsider, Qa3:

[d]7q/k1rbn3/1p2p1pr/p2pPp1n/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1KB2/2P3R1/R2NB3 b - - 0 1

let's finish for today, tomorrow, same place, same time, unless they close talkchess.
-0.79 54... Be8
[D] 4b2q/k1r1n3/1p2p1pr/p2pPp1n/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1KB2/2P3R1/R2NB3 w - - 20 55
seems I have outreached myself and should go for the draw.

Bh5:

[d]4b2q/k1r1n3/1p2p1pr/p2pPp1B/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P3R1/R2NB3 b - - 0 1

it is those late knight moves(late knight reductions), maybe a4 was bad, after that I need 2 piecs to defend a4, either 2 heavies, or a knight and heavy, and thus can not implement the necessary regrouping.

I wanted to manoeuvre the knight via d1 and f2 to h3, then g5 and finally f3, where it will defend h4, then attempt some break.

whether this will succeed is doubtful, white should have only some 30-40cps advantage, but would have been much better.

the game seems to be more draw than anything else, anyway.

I simply don't have luck with this game, what to do, one way or another the correctness of my view on the Winaver will be displayed sooner or later, by significantly improved engines or otherwise.
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Re: A french defence game

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
seems I have outreached myself and should go for the draw.

Bh5:

[d]4b2q/k1r1n3/1p2p1pr/p2pPp1B/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P3R1/R2NB3 b - - 0 1
Yes, even I see the dangers that might arise if Nxf4 were permitted.

-0.62 55... gxh5
[D] 4b2q/k1r1n3/1p2p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P3R1/R2NB3 w - - 0 56
Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: A french defence game

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
seems I have outreached myself and should go for the draw.

Bh5:

[d]4b2q/k1r1n3/1p2p1pr/p2pPp1B/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P3R1/R2NB3 b - - 0 1
Yes, even I see the dangers that might arise if Nxf4 were permitted.

-0.62 55... gxh5
[D] 4b2q/k1r1n3/1p2p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P3R1/R2NB3 w - - 0 56
Nf2:

[d]4b2q/k1r1n3/1p2p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P2NR1/R3B3 b - - 0 1

one thing I still fail to understand is why would SF give black advantage.
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Re: A french defence game

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Nf2:

[d]4b2q/k1r1n3/1p2p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P2NR1/R3B3 b - - 0 1

one thing I still fail to understand is why would SF give black advantage.
-0.88 56... Rb7
[D] 4b2q/kr2n3/1p2p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P2NR1/R3B3 w - - 2 57
Werewolf
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Re: A french defence game

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White's dark sq bishop is terrible
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Re: A french defence game

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Nf2:

[d]4b2q/k1r1n3/1p2p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P2NR1/R3B3 b - - 0 1

one thing I still fail to understand is why would SF give black advantage.
-0.88 56... Rb7
[D] 4b2q/kr2n3/1p2p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P2NR1/R3B3 w - - 2 57
Nh3:

[d]4b2q/kr2n3/1p2p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K2N/2P3R1/R3B3 b - - 0 1
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Re: A french defence game

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Werewolf wrote:White's dark sq bishop is terrible
is black's light sq better?

this one will go to a3 one day, you know.
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Re: A french defence game

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
Nh3:

[d]4b2q/kr2n3/1p2p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K2N/2P3R1/R3B3 b - - 0 1
-0.62 57... Bc6
[D] 7q/kr2n3/1pb1p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K2N/2P3R1/R3B3 w - - 4 58
Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: A french defence game

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
Nh3:

[d]4b2q/kr2n3/1p2p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K2N/2P3R1/R3B3 b - - 0 1
-0.62 57... Bc6
[D] 7q/kr2n3/1pb1p2r/p2pPp1p/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K2N/2P3R1/R3B3 w - - 4 58
Ng5:

[d]7q/kr2n3/1pb1p2r/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P3R1/R3B3 b - - 0 1

this is my last move for today.

SF is very inconsistent.
it should say at last is it -80 or -60.
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Re: A french defence game

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
Werewolf wrote:White's dark sq bishop is terrible
is black's light sq better?

this one will go to a3 one day, you know.
True. I like white's knight more than black's