A french defence game

[zullil]

Ng5:

[d]7q/kr2n3/1pb1p2r/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P3R1/R3B3 b - - 0 1

this is my last move for today.

SF is very inconsistent.
it should say at last is it -80 or -60.

Last reply for today:
-0.62 58... Qe8
[D] 4q3/kr2n3/1pb1p2r/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P3R1/R3B3 w - - 6 59

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Ng5:

[d]7q/kr2n3/1pb1p2r/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P3R1/R3B3 b - - 0 1

this is my last move for today.

SF is very inconsistent.
it should say at last is it -80 or -60.

Last reply for today:
-0.62 58... Qe8
[D] 4q3/kr2n3/1pb1p2r/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P3R1/R3B3 w - - 6 59

Rg1:

[d]4q3/kr2n3/1pb1p2r/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P5/R3B1R1 b - - 0 1

[zullil]

Rg1:

[d]4q3/kr2n3/1pb1p2r/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P5/R3B1R1 b - - 0 1

-0.79 59... Rg6
[D] 4q3/kr2n3/1pb1p1r1/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P5/R3B1R1 w - - 8 60

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Rg1:

[d]4q3/kr2n3/1pb1p2r/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P5/R3B1R1 b - - 0 1

-0.79 59... Rg6
[D] 4q3/kr2n3/1pb1p1r1/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K3/2P5/R3B1R1 w - - 8 60

Bg3:

[d]4q3/kr2n3/1pb1p1r1/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K1B1/2P5/R5R1 b - - 0 1

I don't know if it makes sense to play that any more, for me it is an obvious draw.

no side can break.

only possible break in the position is b6-b5, but that is completely impossible in practice, as the black king gets exposed.

so, it is 0.0, and from now on we will just be shuffling.

[zullil]

Bg3:

[d]4q3/kr2n3/1pb1p1r1/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K1B1/2P5/R5R1 b - - 0 1

I don't know if it makes sense to play that any more, for me it is an obvious draw.

no side can break.

only possible break in the position is b6-b5, but that is completely impossible in practice, as the black king gets exposed.

so, it is 0.0, and from now on we will just be shuffling.

Yes, let's call this a draw. Here is the full PV in response to your Bg3:

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-0.50 60... Ng8 61. Kf2 Nh6 62. Rge1 Qd7 63. Kg2 Rg8 64. Kg1 Re8 65. Reb1 Ng4 66. Ra2 Ra8 67. Rba1 Rd8 68. Rb1 Rbb8 69. Re1 Re8 70. Rb1 Rb7 71. Rba1 Rc7 72. Rb1 Rb8 73. Rba1 Rcb7 74. Rb1 Rg8 75. Re1 Rbb8 76. Rf1 Rbe8 77. Re1 Rg7 78. Rb1 Reg8 79. Qb2 Rb8 80. Qa3 Rb7 81. Re1 Ka6 82. Rea1 Rg8 83. Rc1 Nh6 84. Rca1 Nf7 85. Rb1 Rbb8 86. Raa1 Ka7 87. Kg2 Rg6 88. Re1 Nh6 89. Kg1 Qe8 90. Kh2 Nf7 91. Kg1 (depth 61, 0:24:44)

The position at the end of the PV:
[D] 1r2q3/k4n2/1pb1p1r1/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P3B1/2P5/R3R1K1 b - - 71 91

Good game!

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Bg3:

[d]4q3/kr2n3/1pb1p1r1/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P1K1B1/2P5/R5R1 b - - 0 1

I don't know if it makes sense to play that any more, for me it is an obvious draw.

no side can break.

only possible break in the position is b6-b5, but that is completely impossible in practice, as the black king gets exposed.

so, it is 0.0, and from now on we will just be shuffling.

Yes, let's call this a draw. Here is the full PV in response to your Bg3:

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-0.50 60... Ng8 61. Kf2 Nh6 62. Rge1 Qd7 63. Kg2 Rg8 64. Kg1 Re8 65. Reb1 Ng4 66. Ra2 Ra8 67. Rba1 Rd8 68. Rb1 Rbb8 69. Re1 Re8 70. Rb1 Rb7 71. Rba1 Rc7 72. Rb1 Rb8 73. Rba1 Rcb7 74. Rb1 Rg8 75. Re1 Rbb8 76. Rf1 Rbe8 77. Re1 Rg7 78. Rb1 Reg8 79. Qb2 Rb8 80. Qa3 Rb7 81. Re1 Ka6 82. Rea1 Rg8 83. Rc1 Nh6 84. Rca1 Nf7 85. Rb1 Rbb8 86. Raa1 Ka7 87. Kg2 Rg6 88. Re1 Nh6 89. Kg1 Qe8 90. Kh2 Nf7 91. Kg1 (depth 61, 0:24:44)

The position at the end of the PV:
[D] 1r2q3/k4n2/1pb1p1r1/p2pPpNp/P1pP1P1P/Q1P3B1/2P5/R3R1K1 b - - 71 91

Good game!

many thanks for the game, Louis!

you are a good friend and a good operator.

SF is 100-150 elo stronger from the last time we played, I am also 100-150 elo stronger, but it is not easy to win a game from SF, starting from the very opening.

humans are bound to lose their concentration/play suboptimal moves at times.

this time I did not manage to show the Winaver is very favourable for white, but SF played all the best moves, castling long, f5, etc.

had you played short castle, I would have showed a win, but maybe this was better, as we investigated an univestigated game.

I am completely certain in the future the Winaver will be categorised as lost or almost lost, just wait for another 20 years to pass.

[Henk]

Isn't it that castling short is almost always too dangerous in the French when closed position and pawns white d4 e5 pawns black d5 e6 etcetera but no black pawn on f5.

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Isn't it that castling short is almost always too dangerous in the French when closed position and pawns white d4 e5 pawns black d5 e6 etcetera but no black pawn on f5.

it is, but theory/engines/humans don't think so.