Interesting Queen vs Minor position

Nordlandia · Post by **Nordlandia** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:32 am

I stumbled upon this game in my chess library. I find this position remarkably interesting when adding null-move to give black some chances for equality.

[d]r1b4r/ppb2kp1/4pnnp/8/8/8/PPPBQPPP/2KR3R w - - 0 20

Replace wKnight with bishop.

[d]r1b4r/ppb2kp1/4pnnp/8/8/8/PPPNQPPP/2KR3R w - - 0 20

[pgn][Event ""]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White ""]
[Black ""]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount ""]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Bc4 Ngf6 6. Ng5 e6 7. Qe2 Nb6 8.
Bd3 h6 9. N5f3 c5 10. Bd2 Qc7 11. Ne5 cxd4 12. Ngf3 Bd6 13. O-O-O Nbd7 14. Ng6
fxg6 15. Bxg6+ Kf8 16. Nxd4 Ne5 17. Nb5 Nxg6 18. Nxc7 Bxc7 19. Z0 {Null move.}
Kf7 *[/pgn]

Nordlandia · Post by **Nordlandia** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:37 pm

[pgn][Event "Gausdal Jubilee"]
[Site "Gausdal"]
[Date "1983.??.??"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Agdestein, Simen"]
[Black "Keene, Raymond"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A42"]
[WhiteElo "2380"]
[BlackElo "2490"]
[PlyCount "22"]
[EventDate "1983.04.??"]
[EventType "swiss"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "NOR"]
[SourceTitle "MCD"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1999.07.01"]
[SourceVersion "1"]
[SourceVersionDate "1999.07.01"]
[SourceQuality "1"]

1. d4 g6 2. c4 Bg7 3. Nc3 d6 4. e4 Nc6 5. d5 Nd4 6. Be3 c5 7. Nge2 Qb6 8. Nxd4
cxd4 9. Na4 dxe3 10. Nxb6 exf2+ 11. Kxf2 axb6 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[d]r1b1k1nr/1p2ppbp/1p1p2p1/3P4/2P1P3/8/PP3KPP/R2Q1B1R w kq - 0 12

Well-entrenched octopus.

[d]r1b1k2r/1p2ppbp/1p1p2p1/3Pn3/2P1P3/8/PP3KPP/R2Q1B1R w kq - 0 12

https://lichess.org/mMzBTxPt#22

Nordlandia · Post by **Nordlandia** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:10 pm

[d]r5k1/ppp3pp/8/6R1/3pN2q/3P1K2/PPPB1P2/R7 b - - 0 4

MikeGL · Post by **MikeGL** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:59 pm

Nordlandia wrote:I stumbled upon this game in my chess library. I find this position remarkably interesting when adding null-move to give black some chances for equality.

[d]r1b4r/ppb2kp1/4pnnp/8/8/8/PPPBQPPP/2KR3R w - - 0 20

Replace wKnight with bishop.

[d]r1b4r/ppb2kp1/4pnnp/8/8/8/PPPNQPPP/2KR3R w - - 0 20

[pgn][Event ""]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White ""]
[Black ""]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount ""]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Bc4 Ngf6 6. Ng5 e6 7. Qe2 Nb6 8.
Bd3 h6 9. N5f3 c5 10. Bd2 Qc7 11. Ne5 cxd4 12. Ngf3 Bd6 13. O-O-O Nbd7 14. Ng6
fxg6 15. Bxg6+ Kf8 16. Nxd4 Ne5 17. Nb5 Nxg6 18. Nxc7 Bxc7 19. Z0 {Null move.}
Kf7 *[/pgn]

Good positions. But I don't know why I like all those positions and side wihout queens. The side with the queen looks difficult to play. This applies to all posted positions on your original post above.

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Nordlandia · Post by **Nordlandia** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:36 pm

[d]1q4k1/1p3ppp/4n1b1/4N3/2B5/rN2R2P/P4PP1/R5K1 b - - 0 0

[d]1q4k1/rp3ppp/4n1b1/8/2N5/1N2R2P/P4PP1/R4BK1 b - - 0 27

Nordlandia · Post by **Nordlandia** » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:59 am

[d]rnb3k1/1p1n2r1/p2ppbPQ/1B6/4P3/2N5/PPP3PP/R5K1 w - - 0 19

[pgn][Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "New game"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "36"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Be7 8. Qf3
h6 9. Bh4 g5 10. fxg5 Nfd7 11. Nxe6 fxe6 12. Qh5+ Kf8 13. Bb5 Rh7 14. O-O+ Kg8
15. g6 Rg7 16. Rf7 Bxh4 17. Qxh6 Qf6 18. Rxf6 Bxf6 *

[/pgn]

[d]r1bkr3/pp1n3p/6p1/3B4/6n1/1P2P1P1/PbP1P2P/R2Q1NK1 w - - 0 19

[d]r6r/pp1nbkpb/2p5/3n2B1/2QP3P/6N1/PPP2PP1/R5K1 b - - 0 18

[d]r3r3/ppP2kbp/2n2np1/8/2b5/2N5/PPP2PPP/R1BQ2K1 w - - 0 16

[d]2r1k2r/2pbbn1p/p1n2p2/3p4/3P1B2/5N2/PPP2PPP/R2Q2K1 w k - 0 15

[d]4kb1r/3n1p2/p2p2pp/q3p3/Np4PP/1P2B1N1/P1K5/3R1B1R b k - 0 19

[d]3r1rk1/pp2b2p/1nn1b3/2p1P3/8/8/PPP1QPPP/RNB3K1 w - - 0 16

[d]4k2r/p2pbppp/1pq5/2p5/8/5N2/PP3PPP/RNBR2K1 b k - 0 14

[d]rn2k2r/p1B3pp/5n2/1P1p4/4p3/1P4P1/P2NPP1P/b2Q1K2 b kq - 0 19

[d]5r2/pp1n1pkp/q1p3p1/2bp4/5B1N/2NP3K/PPP3B1/4RR2 w - - 0 20

[d]r3k2r/pp1n1ppp/4pn2/bP5b/3P4/5N1P/1PP1BPP1/3QR1K1 w kq - 0 15

[d]r2k1b1r/pbp3pp/np3n2/5P2/3p4/P1N5/1PPP1PPP/R1B1Q1K1 w - - 0 13

[d]r1k4r/1bp1nQp1/1p2P3/p1b5/2P5/P7/1P3PPP/R2N2K1 w - - 0 24

Interesting ->

[d]r5k1/1bpn1rp1/p2b1n2/1p4p1/3P4/P1N5/1PP2PPP/R1BQ2K1 w - - 0 16

[d]rnb1kb1r/p5pp/2p2n2/8/4P3/8/PPPP2PP/RNBQ3K w kq - 0 15

[d]4k1nr/pp1b1pp1/1q2p2p/3pP3/1P6/5N2/PPBN1RPP/R1B3K1 b k - 0 13

Nordlandia · Post by **Nordlandia** » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:22 am

[d]5rk1/2b2ppp/1nN1bn2/3p4/r2P4/1Q4P1/1P2PPBP/5RK1 w - - 0 19

[d]r1b3nr/ppp2kb1/6p1/2n1P1B1/4P3/2P5/PP4PP/RN1Q2K1 b - - 0 13

[d]r3kn1r/1bn1bppp/pp6/8/3P4/5NP1/PP2PPBP/3Q1RK1 b kq - 0 14

[d]rn1qkb1R/pp2pp2/2p3p1/3pP3/3P2n1/2N4B/PPP2P2/R1B1K1N1 b Qq - 0 9

[d]2kr1b1R/pp1npp2/1qp3pB/3p4/8/2N2P2/PPP1N3/2KR1B2 w - - 0 15

Nordlandia · Post by **Nordlandia** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:25 am

Queen vs Minor imbalances

[d]r2nkbnr/pp3p1p/2p3p1/3bP3/3p4/1Q6/PP1N1P1P/R1B2RK1 w kq - 0 2

[d]7r/pp1k1p1p/3bn1p1/2pb1n2/3p4/1P1Q4/P4P1P/R1B2RK1 w - - 0 0

[d]rn1q1b1r/ppp1p2p/2k3p1/6N1/4pPB1/8/PPPP2PP/RNB1K2R b KQ - 0 9

[d]r3k2r/3bbpp1/4p2p/p1npn2P/1p6/3B1PN1/PPPQ4/1KR4R w kq - 0 24

[d]2kr1b1r/pp3ppp/5n2/q2Pp3/2P3P1/2N1BN1P/PPK2P2/3R1B1R b - - 0 15

[d]r1bk1b1r/pp1n1ppp/5n2/3p4/8/2P2N2/PP1K1pPP/R2Q1B1R w - - 0 12

[d]r1b1k2r/1p3pbp/p1nppnp1/6B1/P2NP3/2P5/P4PPP/R2QK2R b KQkq - 0 14

[d]rn1q1r1k/ppp1pP1p/6p1/4N3/2B3b1/8/PPP2PPP/RNB2RK1 b - - 0 12

[d]r4rk1/pp1nppbp/3p2p1/8/1nP1P1b1/5N2/R3BPPP/3Q1RK1 w - - 0 17

[d]r2r2k1/1ppb1pb1/3p2pp/p1nPp3/2P5/1Pn5/P2N1PPP/R2BQRK1 b - - 0 15

[d]1rbqk2r/p4pB1/2p3pp/n7/4Np2/1P1B4/P1PP1PPP/RN2K2R b KQk - 0 15

[d]r3r1k1/1p3p1p/pnp2np1/5b2/PbPPp3/6P1/2QN1PBP/R4RK1 w - - 0 20

[d]r4rk1/pp2bppp/5n2/2P4q/N3PB2/1P4P1/1P3PBP/2R1NRK1 b - - 0 17

[d]r1bqk2r/1p3ppp/p7/7n/2Pp4/1P1B3P/PB1PNPPR/RN2K3 w Qkq - 0 15

[d]r3k2r/ppp2ppp/5q2/2BBnN2/4P3/2NP4/PPb2PPP/R3K2R w KQkq - 0 14

[d]r4rk1/pp2bppp/4pn2/3p4/1n1P1B2/3bPN1P/R4PP1/3Q1RK1 w - - 0 21

[d]r2r2k1/1ppb1pb1/3p2pp/p1nPp3/2P5/1P6/n2NBPPP/2R1QRK1 w - - 0 16

[d]r3k2r/ppn1ppbp/2p2np1/PP3b2/3P3P/8/1P2BPP1/R2QK1NR b KQkq - 0 13

[d]2r2rk1/4bppp/2npp3/8/pp2nP2/3bBQ2/PP4PP/3NRR1K w - - 0 24

Variant A

[d]r1b2rk1/pp3pb1/2p3pp/2N4n/8/2p1P1P1/P2n1PBP/R1QR2K1 w - - 0 24

Variant B

[d]r1b2rk1/pp3pb1/2p3pp/2N4n/1Q6/2p1P1P1/P2n1PBP/R2R2K1 w - - 0 24

[d]r1b1k2r/pp1pppbp/3n2p1/3n4/3N4/2Q1P1P1/P4P1P/R1B2RK1 w kq - 0 17

[d]1rr3k1/p2bpp1p/6p1/q1n5/2PN4/2N3P1/P2PPPBP/B1R1K2R b K - 0 19

[d]r1bqkb1r/pp3ppp/2P5/2p1P3/8/3P2P1/PPPN2BP/R1BK2NR b kq - 0 10

[d]2rqkr2/5p1p/p7/1p6/1n6/Nb2PN2/PP1B1PPP/R3KB1R b KQ - 0 14

[d]r3k2r/4bp2/pB2pnpp/3pn3/bp4PP/P4P2/2PQB3/2KR3R w kq - 0 20

[d]rnb1nrk1/pppp1ppp/7b/1N3R2/3Q4/8/PPP1B1PP/R4K2 b - - 0 15

[d]3q1rk1/2p1nppp/B4b2/2Pp4/1r1P4/2N1BN2/PPR2PPP/5RK1 b - - 0 20

[d]2kr3r/pp1bp3/n1p1p1pn/3p3p/3b1P2/PPNP3P/2P1Q1P1/RK3B1R w - - 0 21

[d]2rqr1k1/1p3ppp/8/pP1P1b2/N2B2n1/P3PPN1/4BP1P/R4RK1 b - - 0 21

[d]r1b1k2r/2pnn1bp/p3p1p1/1p6/4NP1P/P3p3/1PP4P/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 15

[d]r4rk1/pp2pp1p/2np2p1/5b2/N2bnP2/P2Q4/2P1B1PP/R4R1K w - - 0 15

[d]rnb1k2r/pp2ppbp/3p2p1/n1p5/2PP4/6P1/P3PPBP/RN1QK2R w KQkq - 0 11

Variant A

[d]1r1q1rk1/3Bbppp/p3pn2/8/2NP4/2P5/PP3PPP/RNB2RK1 w - - 0 15

Variant B

[d]3q1rk1/3Bbppp/p3pn2/8/2NP4/2P5/Pr3PPP/RNB2RK1 w - - 0 15

Variant C

[d]1r3rk1/2q1bppp/p3pn2/8/B1NP4/2P5/PP3PPP/RNB2RK1 w - - 0 16

[d]1r4k1/ppr1ppbp/2npb1p1/8/P2n4/RP4PP/3Q1PB1/3RN2K w - - 0 26

[d]rn2k2r/pp2B1pp/1b1p4/4p3/2B1Ppb1/4nN2/PP2Q1PP/3R1K1R w kq - 0 15

[d]r3qr1k/2p3pp/p7/2n1Pb2/1Np2P2/2N1B3/PPP3PP/2KR1B1R b - - 0 18

[d]r4rk1/pp3pb1/2p3p1/4p1pn/4Pn2/2N1Bb1P/PP3P1K/2QR2R1 w - - 0 24

[d]r1q2r1k/1p2bPpp/8/1N2p3/1nB5/pP2B3/P1PR1PPP/2N2RK1 b - - 0 19

[d]rB4k1/1p1bppbp/3p1np1/pN2n3/P3P3/1r3P2/1PP2QPP/R3K2R w KQ - 0 16

Variant A

[d]5rk1/pp1bpp1p/3p1npb/8/4n1P1/1BP5/PKP2Q1P/3R3R w - - 0 19

Variant B

[d]5rk1/pp1bpp1p/3p2pb/8/4n1P1/1BP5/PKPn1Q1P/3R3R w - - 0 19

Variant C

[d]2r2rk1/pp2pp1p/3p1npb/8/4P1b1/1BN2n2/PPP2Q1P/1K1R3R w - - 0 17

Variant A

[d]r2qr1k1/1p2bppp/p7/2P2R2/B1P5/PN2B3/nPK1NPPP/7R b - - 0 17

[d]Variant B

[d]r3B1k1/1pq1bppp/p7/2PR4/2P5/PN2B3/nPK1nPPP/6NR b - - 0 18

Variant C

[d]r3r1k1/1pq1bppp/p7/2PR4/B1P5/PN2B3/nPK1NPPP/7R b - - 0 18

Nordlandia · Post by **Nordlandia** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:33 pm

Extra queen vs minor pieces

[d]1Q3rk1/2p1bqpp/2P1b3/8/2p5/5rPP/P3QPK1/1R1R4 w - - 0 33

[d]3Q1rk1/1b3pbp/p5q1/8/4p3/5Q2/PPr2PPP/3R1RK1 w - - 0 26

[d]7r/p3k2p/2QN1pqp/2PRp3/8/5PP1/P2rPK1P/2q2B1R b - - 0 22

[d]4q3/p3k2p/5p1p/2PQp3/8/5PP1/P3PKBP/2q4R b - - 0 25

[d]r2r2k1/1p2Bp1q/2p1pp2/8/3PP2p/1P2QP2/4N1PP/q1R1KR2 b - - 0 27

[d]3r2k1/1p3p1q/2p1ppq1/8/3PPP1p/1P2Q3/4NKPP/2R2R2 w - - 0 31

[d]r1b2rk1/pp3nbp/6p1/2pQ4/2P5/qP2Qp2/P4PPP/3RR1K1 b - - 0 22

[d]r1b2rk1/pp3nbp/6p1/2p5/2P5/qP2QQ2/P4PPP/3RR1K1 b - - 0 23

Nordlandia · Post by **Nordlandia** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:04 pm

Imbalances within +/- 1.75 threshold

[d]Q1b4r/3pk1p1/4pp1p/4P3/8/b2r3P/P4PP1/5RK1 w - - 0 25

[d]8/pr5p/2pk2p1/3p1p2/2pPbPP1/R3K2P/Pn6/4RB2 b - - 0 26

[d]r2q1rk1/p3bppp/bp2p3/2p5/3PP3/1PQ2NP1/PB3PBP/n2R2K1 w - - 0 18

[d]2rbr1k1/3b2p1/p2p4/7Q/1p1pP3/8/PPP3P1/1K2R3 w - - 0 28

[d]rk4r1/5p1p/p1p3b1/4p3/P3P2Q/4b2P/1PP5/1K1R4 b - - 0 27

[d]3qr1k1/p1p2p1p/5p2/8/8/P7/1B2PPPP/R3KB1R b KQ - 0 17

[d]1r3rk1/p1p1n3/1n1p2pp/8/3Q3P/2P5/P4PP1/R5K1 w - - 0 25

[d]2rr4/p5np/1p2pk2/2p2n2/4RQ2/PP4P1/5P1P/6K1 b - - 0 31

[d]r5k1/p1p1n3/1p6/3p2p1/P1nP4/2P2Q2/2P3Pr/4R1K1 b - - 0 25

[d]r4n2/7r/1k1p1Qp1/p1pP1n2/5P1p/7P/2P3P1/4R1K1 w - - 0 33

[d]5rk1/2p2n1p/1p3Pn1/p1p4Q/2P5/P3r1P1/1P5P/3R2K1 w - - 0 25

[d]r3k3/ppp2p2/3p2p1/8/2P1P1q1/2NP4/PP3R2/R4KN1 b q - 0 24

[d]B3k2r/2q2pp1/p2ppn1p/1p6/3N1P2/2N5/PPP3PP/2KR3R b k - 0 16

[d]8/R3Npk1/6p1/8/2N5/P5P1/1P3PKP/3q4 b - - 0 39

[d]7r/p1pk2p1/3p3p/4p3/8/3NqN1P/PPP3PK/R4R2 b - - 0 20

[d]2k3r1/p4p2/1pq1p3/2p5/2P2BP1/8/PP3PN1/1R2R2K b - - 0 28

[d]5rk1/r2nQpp1/b1pP4/2p1P3/2p5/P7/6PP/5RK1 b - - 0 27

[d]5rk1/2p3pp/qPp5/4p3/2P1N3/1P2B2P/6P1/1KR3R1 b - - 0 29

[d]1rk4r/1pnb1p2/3Q2p1/2pP2p1/P1P5/4R1P1/7P/7K w - - 0 31

[d]r1b2k2/pp3r2/4np2/8/4Q2P/8/PPP3P1/5RK1 w - - 0 24

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