Laskos wrote:One possible issue is that Contempt in Stockfish is broken or at least too rudimentary. Komodo has much more involved Contempt, maybe that's why it is gaining significantly ELO in rating lists such as yours.
i can agree to a brocken SF contempt implementation but that would be something someone would have discovered already - I hope
And Komodo "gaining significantly" of a contempt? I wrote about the test on the 20.6.2016 of K10 without contempt (please check). It lost less than 1 SD or 7 Elo. Is that significant? But K10 without contempt performed much better against SF - I am not a fan of contempts at all, mostly their influence is overrated (no pun intended
Now barely winning against Stockfish. When I see a strong program like this doing so bad against Stockfish, I m sure there is a problem with Stockfish rating. It is indeed deflated because Stockfish draw too many game and is doing much better against close opponent.
JJJ wrote:Now barely winning against Stockfish. When I see a strong program like this doing so bad against Stockfish, I m sure there is a problem with Stockfish rating. It is indeed deflated because Stockfish draw too many game and is doing much better against close opponent.
Do not forget that K performes much better against SF without contempt ...
What I think is that it is much more complex the the "allegedly" high draw rate!
As I said at the beginning, I think it is either latest Komodo or Shredder. Not sure which. But actually I don't recall Stefan releasing this way before ? So that raises doubts. Komodo team on the other hand are a fan of IPON, so....
. No other possibility as clones are not tested.See