Houdini 6 has been released

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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

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Lion wrote:Hello,

Thank you very much for the chess engine and dedicated work on it!

Is there some data you can share with us to back-up the claims of strongest chess engine & the claimed ELO gain?

rgds
You can see some of the results in the IPON test that Ingo ran ten days ago.
See the following topic: http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65112
and the results table: http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 157#731157
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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

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Lion wrote:Hello,

Thank you very much for the chess engine and dedicated work on it!

Is there some data you can share with us to back-up the claims of strongest chess engine & the claimed ELO gain?

rgds
For people to not ask constantly about that, Ingo a week ago tested for IPON a mystery engine, which after the test he revealed to be a pre-release Houdini 6. The result was

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   # PLAYER              : RATING  ERROR     (%)    D(%)  OppAvg   CFS(next)    POINTS       W       D       L  PLAYED 
   1 NEW                 :   3343     10   81.7%    30.3    3059     100        2694.5    2195     999     106    3300 
   2 Komodo 11.2.2       :   3313     10   78.9%    34.5    3061      98        2604.0    2034    1140     126    3300 
   3 Stockfish 8         :   3298     10   77.4%    39.1    3062     100        2555.5    1910    1291      99    3300 
   4 Shredder 13         :   3119      8   56.3%    50.7    3074     100        1859.5    1023    1673     604    3300 
   5 Fizbo 1.9           :   3069      8   49.7%    42.9    3078      96        1640.0     932    1416     952    3300 
   6 Ginkgo 2.0          :   3059      8   48.3%    49.8    3078      70        1593.0     772    1642     886    3300 
   7 Gull 3              :   3056      8   47.8%    47.9    3078     100        1579.0     788    1582     930    3300 
   8 Booot 6.2           :   3025      8   43.7%    50.6    3080      57        1442.5     608    1669    1023    3300 
   9 Jonny 8.00          :   3024      7   43.6%    46.4    3081      65        1438.0     672    1532    1096    3300 
  10 Andscacs 0.90       :   3022      8   43.3%    45.3    3081     100        1428.5     681    1495    1124    3300 
  11 Equinox 3.30        :   3004      8   40.8%    47.9    3082      97        1348.0     558    1580    1162    3300 
  12 Critter 1.6a        :   2993      8   39.4%    47.2    3083      50        1300.0     522    1556    1222    3300 
  13 Chiron 4            :   2993      9   39.4%    45.3    3083      51        1300.0     553    1494    1253    3300 
  14 Fritz 15            :   2993      8   39.4%    47.2    3083     100        1299.5     520    1559    1221    3300 
  15 Nirvanachess 2.4    :   2964      8   35.6%    44.9    3085      90        1175.5     434    1483    1383    3300 
  16 Hannibal 1.7        :   2956      8   34.6%    44.2    3085     ---        1142.5     413    1459    1428    3300
Currently Ingo is testing for IPON the actual released Houdini 6.
http://www.inwoba.de/H6.html
Press the "refresh" button to see updated results.

To the rating performance shown there at the end of the list, add some 20 ELO points to see the real rating using Ordo (the correct rating tool Ingo will use after the match finishes).
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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

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Funny, 3321 again :)
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JJJ wrote:Funny, 3321 again :)
:)
The statistics is weak, too few games, but performing a bit better against Stockfish 8 as of now. And there is a fluke with Hannibal, which counts in shown performance, but counts less with Ordo (the weight of Hannibal match is lower than the weight of matches of close in strength engines like Komodo). So, I would say, add 22 ELO points to the shown performance rating as of now :P .
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Yes it is doing better against Stockfish this time. Can't wait to see the first tested match against the dev version.
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Thomas Lagershausen wrote:It would be very,very nice from Robert Houdard to send a copy of Houdini 6 to the swedish people of SSDF ratinglist.

For us customers is this very interesting because the people of SSDF are testing on a Ryzen 7 cpu.

i hope Robert will read this and think about this.
Or they could actually buy a copy.
Advanced Micro Devices fan.
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Vinvin wrote:
Werewolf wrote:Are you claiming it's stronger than the latest ASMfish? (That would be amazing if true)
A good idea for a long match :-)
Latest (tested) Asmfish seems about the same strength as latest (tested) Stockfish from the graph at the Pohl site.
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Houdini wrote:Houdini 6 has been released today.
More information on our web page http://www.cruxis.com/chess/houdini.htm .
Also in the updated User's Manual: http://www.cruxis.com/chess/manual/index.html .

Make sure to refresh the browser cache using F5 or Ctrl-F5 to get the most recent page.

Thank you for reading,
Robert
Thank you Robert - so far looks very promising under macOS using wine at the terminal , but have been unsuccessful running it under the xboard GUI on macOS. So if anybody has accomplished that trick please share you method.

I believe it to be doable , will try again tonight. My old trick using winebottler does not appear to be working this time.
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JJJ wrote:Yet I ll wait for an official match or test between H6 and Stockfish dev to be sure.
I will run a match between H6 and SF8 provided Robert is so kind to provide me with a copy.

For demonstation purposes I restarted an old ProDeo match where one can watch 4 games simultaneously.

http://rebel13.nl/pgn4web/live1.html
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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

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Thanks.

Would that qualify to be enough to be stronger than ASMFishW ?
ASMFishW with large pages enabled is on my Threadripper about 30% faster than latest Stockfish development versions which are also faster than Stockfish 8.

Rgds