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Robert Pope



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PostPost subject: Re: tuning for the uninformed    Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:38 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

Henk wrote:
CheckersGuy wrote:
Henk wrote:
All does not work if search space has a great many local optima and only very few global optima that you are interested in. But simulated annealing taking too long.


Local search and any other practical algorithm to minimize the error will end up in a local optimum.


Wasn't it that if it optimizes enough parameters you won't get trapped in a local optimum. I can't remember.


I don't think there is ever a guarantee of that without additional information about the domain. There's always the chance of a global minimum that is far from the rest of the "good" solutions that you will never hit except by very good chance.

Consider trying to find the minimum of this function (without actually knowing the function ahead of time):

y=-x, for 4999<x<=5000
y=x^2, for all other x

There is basically no chance someone is going to find the global minimum at x=5000. Then add another 100 dimensions for chess tuning.
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tuning for the uninformed Folkert van Heusden Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:37 am
      Re: tuning for the uninformed Henk van den Belt Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:49 am
      Re: tuning for the uninformed Mehdi Amini Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:49 am
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