Why are you using old GPU architectures for your comparison. The 1080 has no tensor units, so obviously it will be much slower.
The V100 on the other hand should be ~75%+ the performance of a TPU2.
AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
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Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Sounds you can't really read well, coz I was comparing training time from the start and arguing about ludicrous 4 hours figure.clumma wrote:Sounds like you're conflating model training with running the program.Milos wrote:Days of Alpha0 on normal hardware are years away.
Again no clue, no substance, no elaboration, just one-liner.For chess it takes less.For chess it would take even more.
And you clearly show that your lack of manners largely surpasses any competence you might have. You are really taking it too personally.Your case isn't advanced by being an asshole.But keep on dreaming, no one can take that from you.
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Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Has Jonny on 2000 cores ever beaten Komodo 28-0?Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
Alpha hardware equivalent was somewhere 1024 standard cores.
How 1024 cores compare with 64 cores?
How scientific is that.
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Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Show me open community that has access to V100?jhellis3 wrote:Why are you using old GPU architectures for your comparison. The 1080 has no tensor units, so obviously it will be much slower.
The V100 on the other hand should be ~75%+ the performance of a TPU2.
I am comparing to what common ppl have access too.
You seems to be sticking to apples and oranges most of the time.
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Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Ok, you are useless, bye.
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Hehe too many Google fanboys around here it seems .jhellis3 wrote:Ok, you are useless, bye.
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Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
1080 ti is 11.3 TFLOPS:Milos wrote:So you claim single gen1 TPU is just only like 5x stronger than Nvidia 1080 GPU????Rémi Coulom wrote:5000*5*12/(24*365) = 34.25 yearsMilos wrote:Care to elaborate, add any substance beyond your one-liner childish reply?Rémi Coulom wrote:Your math is wrong. I think it is doable with a distributed effort smaller than what was used for Stockfish.Milos wrote:4 hours my ass (pardon my french). Try training it on state-of-the-art 1080.
Fully trained network requres 12h on 5000 gen1 TPUs for self-games and 64 gen2 TPUs for training itself.
Gen1 TPU is like 30x K80 which is like 5x 1080 in performance.
So you'd need like 375k training days with 1080, which is like 1000 years!!!
Gee, you really have no clue about hardware, do you?
TPU is like 92 TOPS, 1080 is 0.3TFLOPS. Please educate yourself before trying to run discussions with one-liner replies.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11172/nv ... t-week-699
A TPU is 45 TFLOPS:
https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... ute-cloud/
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Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
This really seems revolutionary !
Beating Stockfish 10-0 is no joke.
I wonder when such a Program would be made available to customers at a reasonable price ?
Beating Stockfish 10-0 is no joke.
I wonder when such a Program would be made available to customers at a reasonable price ?
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Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Not 10-0.
Result: +28 =72 -0
Result: +28 =72 -0
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Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
Oh, even more awesome !sovaz1997 wrote:Not 10-0.
Result: +28 =72 -0
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