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AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo
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Lyudmil Tsvetkov



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PostPost subject: Re: AlphaZero beats AlphaGo Zero, Stockfish, and Elmo    Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:36 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

Rémi Coulom wrote:
Milos wrote:
Rémi Coulom wrote:
1080 ti is 11.3 TFLOPS:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11172/nvidia-unveils-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-next-week-699

A TPU is 45 TOPS:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/google-brings-45-teraflops-tensor-flow-processors-to-its-compute-cloud/

1st gen TPU is 92 TOPS and an OP is an 8bit int multiplication.
Lets cut this crap of comparing apples and oranges. Please take a look at:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1704.04760

The actual comparison (not apples and oranges stuff you mention) you can see in Table 6 where typical ML application are compared (MLP and CNN).
Factor between first gen TPU and K80 (that is 3-5x faster for ML compared to 1080) is between 15 and 60 averaging around 25x.


The GTX 1080 should be faster than a K80. For instance, this is a deep learning benchmark where it is 4x faster:
https://medium.com/initialized-capital/benchmarking-tensorflow-performance-and-cost-across-different-gpu-options-69bd85fe5d58
They have roughly the same number of cores, but the clock speed of the 1080 is 3x the clock speed of the K80. 16nm vs 28 nm technology. The 1080 is definitely faster.

The reason I used 5x in my initial formula is that I believed you meant in your message that a 1080 is 5x slower than a TPU (5x slower than a K80 cannot be correct).

Anyway, whether a TPU is 5x or 10x faster than a 1080 does not change much to the fact that the experiment of DeepMind can be replicated in a few months of distributed computation with ~100 participants, which should be less than the effort that was used by Stockfish so far.


Only thing is they are still tuning at a much lower level, quite probably around 2900 or even lower.
It will not be that easy going forward, as optimal lines get subtler and subtler.
Stockfish also averaged around 150 elo in the first year.
At that level, it is easy, let's see what they do from now on, and my prediction is: very little.
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