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superhuman engines on common hardware?
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when will we see top engines based on neural networks running on common hardware?
never
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
matter of weeks
7%
 7%  [ 3 ]
matter of months
19%
 19%  [ 8 ]
matter of years
60%
 60%  [ 25 ]
matter of decades
12%
 12%  [ 5 ]
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Daniel Shawul



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PostPost subject: Re: superhuman engines on common hardware?    Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:18 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

There is not a lot of expertise here in either NN or MCTS, as opposed to computer Go people so I would say years. After AlphaGo defeated Lee and published their methods many former top engines adopted similar approach in months on commodity GPUs (not TPUs) to improve greatly. Stockfish basically needs to written from scratch to adopt AlphaZero's method and it would be an entirely new project anyway for them. Throw away alpha-beta, null-move, lmr, see, qsearch etcc... whats left of the past 50 years of chess research?

I think it would be worthwhile to program deeplearning software anyway, as you might find it useful in your career especially if you are a software engineer.

Daniel

P.S: NebiyuAlien can already play chess & shogi with MCTS (though very crapily) and a material eval. The MTCS was awesome for Checkers though! What I need to do is replace the material eval with deep NNs in a few months Smile
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superhuman engines on common hardware? Srdja Matovic Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:08 pm
      Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Milos Stanisavljevic Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:09 pm
            Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Greg Simpson Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:15 pm
      Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Daniel Shawul Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:18 pm
      Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Joseph Ellis Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:50 pm
            Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? duncan roberts Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:34 am
      Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? duncan roberts Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:51 pm
            Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Srdja Matovic Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:00 am
                  Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? duncan roberts Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:32 am
                        Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Srdja Matovic Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:22 pm
      Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:31 pm
            Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Robin Messemer Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:28 pm
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