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Google's AlphaGo team has been working on chess
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Joerg Oster



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PostPost subject: Re: Google's AlphaGo team has been working on chess    Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:53 am Reply to topic Reply with quote

jdart wrote:
Stockfish does such heavy pruning that it is throwing away most of the nodes in its search trees. But the ones it does search, it searches very deeply. I see a lot of high-level computer games won by tactics or by endgame play that requires deep search. Shannon Type II (selective search) has never worked well in any of the past 5-6 decades. But maybe this effort is showing that eval is more important than has been thought, and search less important.

--Jon


And quite remarkably it is both, one of its biggest strength but also one of its biggest weakness. Laughing
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