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Lyudmil Antonov



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PostPost subject: Re: MCTS-NN vs alpha-beta    Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:04 am Reply to topic Reply with quote

MikeGL wrote:

[d]4q2r/1b1kbp2/1p2p1p1/pP1pP1N1/P2P1PQP/3BK3/2R5/8 w - - 6 30
   ::    :: BQ ::    BR
:: BB :: BK BB BP ::    
   BP    :: BP :: BP ::
BP WP :: BP WP    WN    
WP ::    WP    WP WQ WP
::    :: WB WK    ::    
   :: WR ::    ::    ::
::    ::    ::    ::    

After 29...Be7, can current engines consider 30.Bxg6! here?


For the second position SF-dev considers an N sac instead of B sac and finds nothing better than a draw. It's interesting that it finds Bxg6 on the very first ply but immediately rejects it

Code:
  40     0.00    723.3M   14:37.16   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 Kf3 Qb4 Bf5 Re8 Qg7+ Re7 Bxe6+ Kxe6 Rc6+ Bxc6 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxc6+ Kd8 Qa8+ Kc7 Qa7+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kd7 Qc6+
 39     0.00    539.2M   10:47.12   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 Kf3 Qb4 Bf5 Re8 Qg7+ Re7 Bxe6+ Kxe6 Rc6+ Bxc6 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxc6+ Kd8 Qa8+ Kc7 Qa7+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kd7 Qc6+
 38     0.00    411.4M   7:49.51   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 Kf3 Qb4 Bf5 Re8 Qg7+ Re7 Bxe6+ Kxe6 Rc6+ Bxc6 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxc6+ Kd8 Qa8+ Kc7 Qa7+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kd7 Qc6+
 37     0.00    348.2M   6:30.79   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 Kf3 Qb4 Bf5 Re8 Qg7+ Re7 Bxe6+ Kxe6 Rc6+ Bxc6 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxc6+ Kd8 Qa8+ Kc7 Qa7+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kd7 Qc6+
 36     0.00    260.7M   4:52.26   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 Kf3 Qb4 Bf5 Re8 Qg7+ Re7 Bxe6+ Kxe6 Rc6+ Bxc6 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxc6+ Kd8 Qa8+ Kc7 Qa7+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kd7 Qc6+
 35     0.00    220.9M   4:09.16   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 Kf3 Qb4 Bf5 Re8 Qg7+ Re7 Bxe6+ Kxe6 Rc6+ Bxc6 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxc6+ Kd8 Qa8+ Kc7 Qa7+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kd7 Qc6+
 34     0.00    159.4M   3:00.63   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 Kf3 Qb4 Bf5 Re8 Qg7+ Re7 Bxe6+ Kxe6 Rc6+ Bxc6 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxc6+ Kd8 Qa8+ Kc7 Qa7+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kd7 Qc6+
 33     0.00    129.3M   2:24.57   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 Kf3 Qb4 Bf5 Re8 Qg7+ Re7 Bxe6+ Kxe6 Rc6+ Bxc6 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxc6+ Kd8 Qa8+ Kc7 Qa7+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kd7 Qc6+
 32     0.00    105.5M   1:57.98   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 Kf3 Qb4 Bf5 Re8 Qg7+ Re7 Bxe6+ Kxe6 Rc6+ Bxc6 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxc6+ Kd8 Qa8+ Kc7 Qa7+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kd7 Qc6+
 31     0.00    96.5M     1:47.70   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 Kf3 Qb4 Bf5 Re8 Qg7+ Re7 Bxe6+ Kxe6 Rc6+ Bxc6 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxc6+ Kd8 Qa8+ Kc7 Qa7+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kd7 Qc6+
 30     0.00    69.1M     1:17.59   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 f5 exf5 Bxf5+ Kd8 Ke2 Qf7 Bg6 Qe7 Bf5 Qf7
 29     0.00    61.1M     1:08.41   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 f5 exf5 Bxf5+ Kd8 Ke2 Qf7 Bg6 Qe7 Bf5 Qf7
 28     0.00    49.5M     0:55.47   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Ba3 f5 exf5 Bxf5+ Kd8 Ke2 Qf7 Bg6 Qe7 Bf5 Qf7
 28   +0.13?   45.2M     0:50.72   Nxe6 fxe6?
 28   +0.42?   39.5M     0:44.19   Nxe6 fxe6?
 28   +0.64?   35.6M     0:39.84   Nxe6 fxe6?
 28   +0.80?   34.0M     0:38.03   Nxe6 fxe6?
 28   +0.91?   31.6M     0:35.39   Nxe6 fxe6?
 28   +1.06!   31.1M     0:34.81   Nxe6!
 27   +0.98!   24.1M     0:27.16   Nxe6!
 27   +0.77!   21.1M     0:23.87   Nxe6!
 27   +0.61!   20.0M     0:22.76   Nxe6!
 27   +0.50!   19.4M     0:22.05   Nxe6!
 27   +0.42!   18.5M     0:21.06   Nxe6!
 26   +0.35    17.1M     0:19.59   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Rg8 Ke2 Qg7 f5 Qh6 Kf3 Rc8 fxe6+ Kd8 Qf4 Qxf4+ Kxf4 Rc4 Rxc4 dxc4 h6 Bf8 Kg5 Ke7 Bf5 c3 Kg6 Bxh6 Kxh6 Bd5 Bc2 Kxe6 Kg5 Bc4 Kf4 Kd5
 26   +0.72!   16.9M     0:19.27   Nxe6!
 26   +0.56!   16.2M     0:18.54   Nxe6!
 26   +0.45!   15.4M     0:17.68   Nxe6!
 26   +0.37!   14.7M     0:16.89   Nxe6!
 25   +0.30    12.3M     0:14.25   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Rg8 Ke2 Qg7 f5 Qh6 Kf3 Rc8 fxe6+ Kd8 Qf4 Qg7 Qf7 Qxf7+ exf7 Rxc2 Bxc2 Bf8 Kg4 Ke7 Kg5 Kxf7 Bg6+ Ke7 h6 Bc8 Bh5 Be6 h7 Bg7 Kg6
 25   +0.35?   11.6M     0:13.58   Nxe6 fxe6?
 25   +0.60!   10.8M     0:12.66   Nxe6!
 25   +0.51?   10.6M     0:12.39   Nxe6 fxe6?
 25   +0.62?   10.4M     0:12.22   Nxe6 fxe6?
 25   +0.70?   10.3M     0:12.05   Nxe6 fxe6?
 24   +0.77    9.67M     0:11.37   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Bb4 Kf3 Be7 Ke2 Rg8 f5 Qh6 Kf3 Rf8 f6 Bb4 Bd3 Kd8 Qg6 Bd2 Qxh6 Bxh6 Rg2 Rh8 Rg6 Ke8 Rg7 Bxg7 fxg7 Rg8 h6 Kf7 h7 Kxg7 hxg8=Q+ Kxg8 Kf4
 24   +0.72!   7.58M     0:09.01   Nxe6!
 24   +0.51!   6.74M     0:08.09   Nxe6!
 24   +0.35!   5.94M     0:07.22   Nxe6!
 24   +0.24!   5.77M     0:07.06   Nxe6!
 24   +0.16!   5.72M     0:07.00   Nxe6!
 23   +0.09    5.49M     0:06.78   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Bb4 Kf3 Qh6 f5 Rc8 fxe6+ Kd8 Rxc8+ Bxc8 Bf5 Kc7 e7 Bxf5 e8=Q Bxg4+ Kxg4 Bd2 Qe7+ Kc8 Qf6 Kd7 Qf7+ Kd8 Kf5 Be3 Qf6+ Kd7 Qxh6 Bxh6
 23   +0.15!   5.20M     0:06.39   Nxe6!
 23   +0.07!   5.04M     0:06.22   Nxe6!
 22     0.00    4.73M     0:05.88   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Bb4 Kf3 Qh6 f5 Rc8 fxe6+ Kd8 Rxc8+ Bxc8 Bf5 Kc7 e7 Bxf5 e8=Q Bxg4+ Kxg4 Bd2 Qe7+ Kc8 Qf6 Kd7 e6+ Kd6 Qe5+ Ke7 Qc7+ Kxe6 Qxb6+ Kd7 Qb7+ Ke8 Qb8+ Ke7 Qe5+ Kf8 Qb8+ Kg7 Qb7+ Kf8 Qb8+
 21     0.00    4.40M     0:05.47   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Bb4 Kf3 Qh6 f5 Rc8 fxe6+ Kd8 Rxc8+ Bxc8 Bf5 Kc7 e7 Bxf5 e8=Q Bxg4+ Kxg4 Bd2 Qe7+ Kc8 Qf6 Kd7 e6+ Kd6 Qe5+ Ke7 Qc7+ Kxe6 Qxb6+ Kd7 Qb7+ Ke8 Qb8+ Ke7 Qe5+ Kf8 Qb8+ Kg7 Qb7+ Kf8 Qb8+
 21   +0.12?   4.20M     0:05.22   Nxe6 fxe6?
 21   +0.24?   3.96M     0:04.94   Nxe6 fxe6?
 21   +0.31?   3.81M     0:04.76   Nxe6 fxe6?
 20   +0.39    3.51M     0:04.39   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Bb4 Kf3 Qh6 f5 Rc8 fxe6+ Kd8 Rxc8+ Bxc8 Qh4+ Be7 Qf4 Qxf4+ Kxf4 Bf8 Kf5 Ke7 Kg5 Bxe6 h6 Bh3 Bh5 Ke6 h7 Bg7 Kg6
 20   +0.52!   3.16M     0:03.93   Nxe6!
 20   +0.27?   2.99M     0:03.71   Nxe6 fxe6?
 20   +0.61!   2.67M     0:03.33   Nxe6!
 20   +0.50!   2.55M     0:03.13   Nxe6!
 19   +0.35    2.04M     0:02.55   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Bb4 Kf3 Qh6 f5 Rf8 Qf4 Qxf4+ Kxf4 Rc8 Rg2 Rh8 fxe6+ Kxe6 Bf5+ Kf7 Rg6 Bd2+ Kg4 Bc8 Bxc8 Rxc8 Rxb6 Rc4 Kf5 Rxa4 Rb7+ Ke8
 18     0.00    1.69M     0:02.14   Nxe6 fxe6 Bxg6 Qf8 h5 Bb4 Kf3 Qh6 f5 Rf8 Qf4 Qxf4+ Kxf4 Rc8 Rxc8 Bd2+ Kf3 Bxc8 f6 Bb7 Ke2 Bf4 Kf3 Bg5 Ke2 Bh6
 17     0.00    1.27M     0:01.64   Rh2 Rh6 Rh1 Ba3 f5 gxf5 Bxf5 exf5 Qxf5+ Kc7 Nxf7 Re6 Ng5 Rh6 Nf7
 16     0.00    554153   0:00.75   Rh2 Ba3 Rc2 Be7 Rh2
 15     0.00    506281   0:00.67   Rh2 Ba3 Rc2 Be7 Rh2
 14     0.00    473867   0:00.64   Rh2 Ba3 Rc2 Be7 Rh2
 13     0.00    441835   0:00.59   Rh2 Bd8 Qe2 Be7 Qg4
 12     0.00    98223     0:00.16   Rc3 Qf8 Rc1 Bd8 Ke2 Qa3 Rc2 Qf8 Rc1
 11     0.00    82113     0:00.13   Rc3 Qf8 Rc1 Bd8 Ke2 Qa3 Rc2 Qf8 Rc1
 10     0.00    78428     0:00.13   Rc3 Qf8 Rc1 Bd8 Ke2 Qa3 Rc2 Qf8 Rc1
  9     0.00    23103     0:00.03   Kf2 Qf8 Nf3 Ke8 Ng5 Kd7
  8   +0.12    11936     0:00.02   f5 gxf5 Bxf5 Qg8 Bd3 Qf8 Qf4 Ke8
  7   +0.35    10001     0:00.02   f5 Bxg5+ Qxg5 gxf5 Kf4 Qf8 Kg3
  6   +0.87    2378       0:00.01   Bf1 Bxg5 fxg5 Qe7 Bd3 Rc8
  5   +1.92    447         0:00.00   Bf1 Bd8 Bh3 Bxg5 Qxg5
  4   +1.92    367         0:00.00   Bf1 Bd8 Bh3 Bxg5 Qxg5
  3   +2.15    201         0:00.00   Nf3 g5 Nxg5
  2   +2.15    152         0:00.00   Nf3 g5 Nxg5
  1   +1.40    55           0:00.00   Bxg6
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                                    Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:58 pm
                                          Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Mike Libanan Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:28 pm
                                                Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:34 pm
                                                      Re: Much weaker than Stockfish H.G.Muller Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:42 am
                                                            Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Thorsten Czub Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:53 am
                                                                  Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Luis Babboni Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:41 pm
                                                                        Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Anil V Dharan Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:16 pm
                                                                              Re: Much weaker than Stockfish szabo, robert Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:09 am
                                                                  Re: Much weaker than Stockfish duncan roberts Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:13 pm
                                                                        Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Thorsten Czub Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:59 pm
                                                                              Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Milos Stanisavljevic Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:38 pm
                                                                                    Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Thorsten Czub Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:47 pm
                                                                                          Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Milos Stanisavljevic Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:03 pm
                                                                                          Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Thorsten Czub Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:16 pm
                                                                                          Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Milos Stanisavljevic Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:55 pm
                                                                              Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Henk van den Belt Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:47 pm
                                                                                    Re: Much weaker than Stockfish szabo, robert Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:16 am
                                                                              Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Anil V Dharan Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:17 am
                                                            Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Anil V Dharan Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:11 pm
                                                            Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Milos Stanisavljevic Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:35 pm
                                                                  Re: Much weaker than Stockfish H.G.Muller Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:16 pm
                                                                        Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Milos Stanisavljevic Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:59 pm
                                                                              Re: Much weaker than Stockfish H.G.Muller Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:19 am
                                                                  Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Albert Silver Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:16 pm
                                                                        Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Milos Stanisavljevic Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:43 pm
                                                                  Re: Much weaker than Stockfish szabo, robert Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:59 pm
            Re: Much weaker than Stockfish fernando Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:53 pm
                  Re: Much weaker than Stockfish Lyudmil Tsvetkov Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:05 pm
      Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Joachim Rang Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:54 pm
            Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Jon Dart Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:00 pm
                  Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:08 pm
                        Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Jon Dart Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:16 pm
                        Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:28 pm
                              Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Jon Dart Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:34 pm
                                    Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:59 pm
                                          Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Jean Baptiste Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:58 pm
                                                Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:33 pm
                                                      Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:36 pm
                              Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Miguel Castanuela Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:28 pm
                                    Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:06 pm
                                          Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Peer Trunz Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:13 pm
                                                Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:37 pm
      Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Henk van den Belt Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:57 pm
      Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Ian Osgood Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:34 am
            Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:08 pm
      Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Greg Simpson Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:22 am
            Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Mike Libanan Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:38 am
      Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero szabo, robert Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:54 am
            Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Carl Bicknell Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:50 am
                  Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Milos Stanisavljevic Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:49 pm
                        Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Bigler Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:56 pm
                              Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Leo Anger Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:53 pm
                        Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Jouni Uski Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:59 pm
                              Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Bigler Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:00 pm
                              Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Kai Laskos Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:38 pm
                                    Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Leo Anger Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:43 pm
                                          Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:10 pm
                                    Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:07 pm
                                          Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:08 pm
                              Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:03 pm
            Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:10 pm
            Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Ian Osgood Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:57 pm
                  Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:12 pm
                        Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Erin Dame Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:37 pm
                              Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Anil V Dharan Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:25 am
      Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero duncan roberts Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:39 am
            Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:12 pm
                  Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero duncan roberts Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:55 pm
      Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero fernando Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:47 pm
            Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Albert Silver Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:53 pm
            Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Kai Laskos Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:59 pm
                  Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Carl Lumma Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:03 am
                        Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Carl Lumma Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:02 am
                              Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Jean Baptiste Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:00 am
                                    Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Jhor A. Vi Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:33 am
                                          Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Anil V Dharan Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:52 am
                                                Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Lyudmil Tsvetkov Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:16 pm
                                          Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Nay Lin Tun Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:08 am
                                                Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Anil V Dharan Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:31 pm
                        Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero Carl Lumma Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:57 pm
                              Re: Historic Milestone: AlphaZero T. Poppins Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:51 am
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