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superhuman engines on common hardware?
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when will we see top engines based on neural networks running on common hardware?
never
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 0%  [ 0 ]
matter of weeks
7%
 7%  [ 3 ]
matter of months
20%
 20%  [ 8 ]
matter of years
62%
 62%  [ 25 ]
matter of decades
10%
 10%  [ 4 ]
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Srdja Matovic



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PostPost subject: Re: superhuman engines on common hardware?    Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:22 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

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thanks for your reply. you say the evaluation knowledge is stored in a neural network. what is the actual neural network ? is it the actual 5000+64 TPUs or something else?


i am just a laymen in this topic, anyway:

A neural network consists of knots and edges and resists in memory.

A layer of knots is connected via weighted edges with other layers of knots.

Each knot or layer can represent a feature to map.

NeuroChess for example had 175 handcrafted features.

http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/NeuroChess

During training the weights of the edges are adjusted,
and the network learns which combination of features are 'good' or 'bad'.

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and can it not be written into code and put in stockfish evaluation's function?

Point is that current neural networks are black boxes,
you can not simply extract a rule and re-implement it into SF code.

But Stockfish could build their own neural network implementation for CPU.

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superhuman engines on common hardware? Srdja Matovic Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:08 pm
      Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Milos Stanisavljevic Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:09 pm
            Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Greg Simpson Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:15 pm
      Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Daniel Shawul Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:18 pm
      Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Joseph Ellis Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:50 pm
            Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? duncan roberts Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:34 am
      Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? duncan roberts Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:51 pm
            Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Srdja Matovic Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:00 am
                  Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? duncan roberts Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:32 am
                        Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Srdja Matovic Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:22 pm
      Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:31 pm
            Re: superhuman engines on common hardware? Robin Messemer Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:28 pm
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