Proposal: This forum should actively support LCZero

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Jesse Gersenson
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Re: Proposal: This forum should actively support LCZero

Post by Jesse Gersenson »

CMCanavessi wrote:Where did you get the (wrong) idea that its a closed source project? Please dont spread fud like that.
The download links you are posting do not include source, or a README, and make no mention of their origin. In other words, closed source (and shady).

The download links you are posting are masquerading as 'the project' and it is putting users off.

For those who are confussed, the client is available here:
https://github.com/glinscott/leela-chess/releases

Users are encouraged to view the github project page and download the client from there.
jhellis3
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Re: Proposal: This forum should actively support LCZero

Post by jhellis3 »

Oh please, I used his package simply for its convenience.

Yes, the packages should probably included the current source and/or a simple link to the repo.

But if anyone is "put off" by another person trying to do something good for humanity well...
David Xu
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Re: Proposal: This forum should actively support LCZero

Post by David Xu »

Although I am fairly sure Carlos is trustworthy, I don't want to establish a norm of assuming that any given person who provides a *.exe file does not have malicious intent. Sooner or later that norm will be taken advantage of, and so it doesn't seem very security-conscious to let a practice like that proliferate.

I will agree that Jesse's tone was rather aggressive, however. If you're reading this, Jesse, consider toning it down.
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CMCanavessi
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Re: Proposal: This forum should actively support LCZero

Post by CMCanavessi »

Jesse Gersenson wrote:
CMCanavessi wrote:Where did you get the (wrong) idea that its a closed source project? Please dont spread fud like that.
The download links you are posting do not include source, or a README, and make no mention of their origin. In other words, closed source (and shady).

The download links you are posting are masquerading as 'the project' and it is putting users off.

For those who are confussed, the client is available here:
https://github.com/glinscott/leela-chess/releases

Users are encouraged to view the github project page and download the client from there.
"The client" that you get from github is absolutely useless if not paired with the rest of the files. As of now, the files needed are:

Client for training: https://github.com/glinscott/leela-chess/releases
LCZero.exe chess engine: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/glinsco ... nch/master (have to click the 1st link that says "environment", then go to artifact, and download the binary there)
Then you need the libopenblas.dll file, which you can get from the Leela Zero project zip file (the Go engine)
Then you may need the OpenCL.dll file, you have to google that one
Then you need batch files for ease of use, or start a command line terminal and read the switches for the executables and manually run it from there

THAT is what's putting users off, not a .7z packaged so users uncompress, double click and run.

Maybe instead of writing, you may want to help the project yourself. Go suggest ideas, help improve the "security", make packages yourself, etc...
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