LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

[AdminX]

Saw this today.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Thanks! Very strong computer, and LC0 benefits from that, I cannot achieve such high results. TC seems to be 1+1, right?

Not 100% sure, but I think you are right.

[AdminX]

Very early days, but current result for LCZero 127 on NVidia 1060 vs Colossus 2008b @ 15 sec / move below. Colossus is single Intel Broadwell core @ 4.2 GHz.

4 wins
2 losses
1 draw

for LCZero

Wow, on a good GPU and longer time control, LC0 rocks. It scales completely differently from standard engines, give it strong hardware and LTC, and it soares.

Stop saying things like this, I am trying very hard over here not to upgrade my GPU! You have no idea how tempted I am to spend money on this right now. I'm like a drug addict going through withdrawals.

[Laskos]

Very early days, but current result for LCZero 127 on NVidia 1060 vs Colossus 2008b @ 15 sec / move below. Colossus is single Intel Broadwell core @ 4.2 GHz.

4 wins
2 losses
1 draw

for LCZero

Wow, on a good GPU and longer time control, LC0 rocks. It scales completely differently from standard engines, give it strong hardware and LTC, and it soares.

Stop saying things like this, I am trying very hard over here not to upgrade my GPU! You have no idea how tempted I am to spend money on this right now. I'm like a drug addict going through withdrawals.

Pretty same here, need at least an Nvidia 1060, but maybe even higher. Bad times .

[jhellis3]

Hold out for the next gen cards.

Either will get better perf/watt & absolute performance, or will very likely be able to buy previous gen cards for cheap as they become 2nd tier for mining.

[Werewolf]

Very early days, but current result for LCZero 127 on NVidia 1060 vs Colossus 2008b @ 15 sec / move below. Colossus is single Intel Broadwell core @ 4.2 GHz.

4 wins
2 losses
1 draw

for LCZero

Wow, on a good GPU and longer time control, LC0 rocks. It scales completely differently from standard engines, give it strong hardware and LTC, and it soares.

Stop saying things like this, I am trying very hard over here not to upgrade my GPU! You have no idea how tempted I am to spend money on this right now. I'm like a drug addict going through withdrawals.

Pretty same here, need at least an Nvidia 1060, but maybe even higher. Bad times .

Latest score for LCZero vs Colossus 2008b @15sec/move

9 wins
6 losses
3 draws

Imagine what it would be at 1 min per move...

[Werewolf]

Very early days, but current result for LCZero 127 on NVidia 1060 vs Colossus 2008b @ 15 sec / move below. Colossus is single Intel Broadwell core @ 4.2 GHz.

4 wins
2 losses
1 draw

for LCZero

Wow, on a good GPU and longer time control, LC0 rocks. It scales completely differently from standard engines, give it strong hardware and LTC, and it soares.

Stop saying things like this, I am trying very hard over here not to upgrade my GPU! You have no idea how tempted I am to spend money on this right now. I'm like a drug addict going through withdrawals.

haha.

You know I was thinking about the Titan V (not that I can afford it).

Someone said what holds the Nvidia cards back with LCZero is not the number of cores, but the memory. I don't know if that's true.

If it is true the Titan V is interesting because it uses faster memory than the rest of the Nvidia cards.
Also future Nvidia Volta cards will use GDDR6 which is slower than the Titan V's HBM2.

$3000 ouch...

[CMCanavessi]

If any1's interested, I'm doing a 100-game match between Leela and Scorpio, 30 min + 10 sec TC, ponder on (for scorpio), no TBs. Opening book is TCEC Season 10 Superfinal.

It might end 100-0, but it's just for fun.


Broadcasting live at my twitch channel, link in my signature.

[carldaman]

If any1's interested, I'm doing a 100-game match between Leela and Scorpio, 30 min + 10 sec TC, ponder on (for scorpio), no TBs. Opening book is TCEC Season 10 Superfinal.

It might end 100-0, but it's just for fun.


Broadcasting live at my twitch channel, link in my signature.

Why not use Scorpio-MCTS? It would be a much closer match.

Cheers,
CL

[Hai]

If any1's interested, I'm doing a 100-game match between Leela and Scorpio, 30 min + 10 sec TC, ponder on (for scorpio), no TBs. Opening book is TCEC Season 10 Superfinal.

It might end 100-0, but it's just for fun.


Broadcasting live at my twitch channel, link in my signature.

Good idea.

Also it's not Scorpios fault that Zero still can't use ponder on.

But time control should be at least 30-60 seconds per move, then Zero will win easily the match, and maybe 60 min.

[Jens H.]

On my XEON 2670 with GTX 1070Ti, LC0 wins the match using the 20 opening positions from John Nunn against stockfish9 strength 15 (1 core for stockfish9).

23-17 (19-13-8; +56)

LC0 is very strong with a fast GPU.