How to get more active users into the Zero project?

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Damir
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Re: How to get more active users into the Zero project?

Post by Damir »

There is 0.6 version of lczero released today. Did you try that version ?
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Re: How to get more active users into the Zero project?

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Hai wrote:
main line wrote:Low?!
Look what is happening on playchess in this moment

Stockfish 16 cores against lczero single core ponder=Off processor version

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With time control 150m + 15s Zero can draw very often vs Stockfish.
I doubt it can draw stockfish often with 150+15.

I understand that
first 20 moves are book moves and Lczero did not play them.
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Re: How to get more active users into the Zero project?

Post by Damir »

PUCIPUCI just lost that game. :( :( I have been watching it on Playchess server. lczero blundered in the endgame. :o :o
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Re: How to get more active users into the Zero project?

Post by Henk »

Maybe it's a waste of resources. Zero method is a black box. In the end it does not provide much knowledge about chess.
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Re: How to get more active users into the Zero project?

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Hi Henk!
Henk wrote:Maybe it's a waste of resources. Zero method is a black box. In the end it does not provide much knowledge about chess.
From todays play.lczero.org "Hard".
First one LC0 White, second one Black:

[pgn]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 e5 3. dxe6 Bxe6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. d4 Bd6 6. c4 O-O 7. Nc3 Re8 8.
Be3 Ng4 9. Bg5 f6 10. Bh4 Bxc4+ 11. Be2 Bxe2 12. Nxe2 Bb4+ 13. Kf1 Nc6 14. Qb3+
Kh8 15. d5 Qe7 16. dxc6 Qxe2+ $19
[/pgn]


[pgn]
1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Nxc3 Nc6 5. Nf3 d6 6. Bc4 Nf6 7. O-O a6 8.
Bf4 Qc7 9. Nd5 Nxd5 10. exd5 Ne5 11. Bxe5 dxe5 12. Rc1 Qd6 13. Ng5 g6 14. Ne4
Qd8 15. d6 Bg7 16. Bxf7+ $18
[/pgn]
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Re: How to get more active users into the Zero project?

Post by Henk »

Might be in the end the generated training examples are interesting. So would be best to save them when engine gets really strong.
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Re: How to get more active users into the Zero project?

Post by syzygy »

Hai wrote:Any ideas?
Introduce Bitcoin Chess that can be mined by playing Leela Chess Zero training games.
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Re: How to get more active users into the Zero project?

Post by Geonerd »

Contact the BOINC people and discuss how to wrap the project into a one-shot download that the distributed computing community can run.
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/
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Re: How to get more active users into the Zero project?

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Re: How to get more active users into the Zero project?

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syzygy wrote:
Hai wrote:Any ideas?
Introduce Bitcoin Chess that can be mined by playing Leela Chess Zero training games.
That joke has some merit to it because we can actually learn how Bitcoin setup and GUI allow us to start mining right away that is so simple plus a fun interface.