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Re: Yet another borderline position

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Another full point, Brainfish White Contempt -20, CFish Black +20.

The normal 12 threads, 8G hash each, ponder on, 60'+30":

[pgn] [Event "SCHWARZERBLITZ, Lang 60m+30s"] [Site "SchwarzerBlitz"] [Date "2018.04.23"] [Round "1"] [White "Brainfish 180418 64 POPCNT"] [Black "Cfish 210418 64 POP NC"] [Result "0-1"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "4r1k1/6p1/p6p/3p1p2/b2P3P/5N2/PP1B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1"] [PlyCount "40"] 1. Ne5 Rc8 2. Bc3 Kh7 3. a3 g5 4. hxg5 hxg5 5. g3 Bb5 6. g4 f4 7. Kg2 Kg7 8. Bb4 Kf6 9. Ba5 Rc2 10. Bd8+ Ke6 11. Nf3 Be2 12. Nxg5+ Kd7 13. Ba5 Bxg4 14. Bc3 Ke7 15. Nf3 Kf6 16. Ne1 Re2 17. Kf1 f3 18. Nd3 Kf5 19. Kg1 Re7 20. Bb4 Rh7 0-1 [/pgn]
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Re: Yet another borderline position

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You're using syzygy 6 right.

Try contempt = zero for both parties.
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Re: Yet another borderline position

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No, Jon, it's your turn again.
:)
Try to find a white blunder in the game above, if you don't find any, the case is closed to me.
If you do, show your next drawn line or game from your deviation onwards.

Problem is, you cannot take a proving output- line backward further then to about tenth move, so proving win or draw might be a matter of personal pov, mine is Black wins.
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Re: Yet another borderline position

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peter wrote:Try to find a white blunder in the game above.
Pity, found one by myself again, 11.b4 instead of Nf3:

[pgn] [Event "Stellung ausspielen (CFish18418x64POPN)"] [Site "?"] [Date "2018.04.19"] [Round "?"] [White "BrainFish"] [Black "CorChess"] [Result "*"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "4r1k1/6p1/p6p/3p1p2/b2P3P/5N2/PP1B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1"] [PlyCount "60"] 1. Ne5 Rc8 2. Bc3 Kh7 3. a3 g5 4. hxg5 hxg5 5. g3 Bb5 6. g4 f4 7. Kg2 Kg7 8. Bb4 Kf6 9. Ba5 Rc2 10. Bd8+ Ke6 11. b4 Be2 12. a4 Ra2 13. a5 Ra4 14. Bb6 Rxb4 15. Bc5 Rb3 16. f3 Bd1 17. Ba7 Rb2+ 18. Kg1 Rb5 19. Bb6 Rb4 20. Kf2 Bc2 21. Kg2 Rb2 22. Bd8 Bd1+ 23. Kf1 Rb4 24. Bb6 Bc2 25. Ke1 Rb1+ 26. Kd2 Be4 27. Bd8 Rb4 28. Bb6 Ra4 29. Kd1 Bb1 30. Ke2 Ra3 * [/pgn]

No more progress again.
I'm outta here, Jon.
:)
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Re: Yet another borderline position

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peter wrote: [pgn] [Event "Stellung ausspielen (CFish18418x64POPN)"] [Site "?"] [Date "2018.04.19"] [Round "?"] [White "BrainFish"] [Black "CorChess"] [Result "*"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "4r1k1/6p1/p6p/3p1p2/b2P3P/5N2/PP1B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1"] [PlyCount "60"] 1. Ne5 Rc8 2. Bc3 Kh7 3. a3 g5 4. hxg5 hxg5 5. g3 Bb5 6. g4 f4 7. Kg2 Kg7 8. Bb4 Kf6 9. Ba5 Rc2 10. Bd8+ Ke6 11. b4 Be2 12. a4 Ra2 13. a5 Ra4 14. Bb6 Rxb4 15. Bc5 Rb3 16. f3 Bd1 17. Ba7 Rb2+ 18. Kg1 Rb5 19. Bb6 Rb4 20. Kf2 Bc2 21. Kg2 Rb2 22. Bd8 Bd1+ 23. Kf1 Rb4 24. Bb6 Bc2 25. Ke1 Rb1+ 26. Kd2 Be4 27. Bd8 Rb4 28. Bb6 Ra4 29. Kd1 Bb1 30. Ke2 Ra3 * [/pgn]

No more progress again.
I'm outta here, Jon.
:)
If I only could.
:)
In this one line at least 16...Bd1 gives away a clear black winning eval. After 16...Bb5 instead: (starting with hash full from backward):

8/8/p3k3/PbBpN1p1/3P1pP1/1r3P2/6K1/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by CFish 180418 x64 POP NN:

17.Bb6 Rb4 18.Kf2 Rb2+ 19.Kg1 Ke7 20.Ba7 Kf8 21.Ng6+ Kf7 22.Ne5+ Ke7 23.Kh1 Rc2 24.Bb6 Ke8 25.Ng6 Rc1+ 26.Kh2 Rb1 27.Ne5 Ra1 28.Ng6 Rc1 29.Ba7 Rb1 30.Kg2 Rb2+ 31.Kg1 Ra2 32.Bc5 Be2 33.Bb4 Rb2 34.Be1 Rb1 35.Kf2 Bb5 36.Bd2 Rf1+ 37.Kg2 Rd1 38.Bb4 Rxd4 39.Bd6 Rd2+ 40.Kh1 d4 41.Nf8 d3 42.Nh7 Rd1+ 43.Kg2 Rg1+ 44.Kxg1 d2 45.Kh2 d1Q 46.Nf6+ Kd8
-+ (-8.45) Depth: 48/71 00:04:25 8787MN, tb=11040224

Now I still have to check 9.Bc3 instead of Ba5, which allows the black Rook to get to 2nd rank.
If I come to a conclusion about that too, I hope I'll have my opinion made up finally again.
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Re: Yet another borderline position

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Peter Martan: without handicapping black side, it's hardly a draw. Now do you mind if we switch position to the following: [d]r5k1/pb3p2/1p2p1p1/3n3p/3P3P/P7/1P1B1PP1/R3R1K1 b - - 0
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Re: Yet another borderline position

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Nordlandia wrote:Peter Martan: without handicapping black side, it's hardly a draw.
:)
In the meantime I yet got stuck with Black after 9.Bc3 again:
[pgn] [Event "SCHWARZERBLITZ, Lang 60m+30s"] [Site "SchwarzerBlitz"] [Date "2018.04.24"] [Round "1"] [White "Brainfish 180418 64 POPCNT"] [Black "Cfish 210418 64 POP NC"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [Annotator "-1.70;-1.76"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "4r1k1/6p1/p6p/3p1p2/b2P3P/5N2/PP1B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1"] [PlyCount "60"] [TimeControl "3600+30"] 1. Ne5 Rc8 2. Bc3 Kh7 3. a3 g5 4. hxg5 hxg5 5. g3 Bb5 6. g4 f4 7. Kg2 Kg7 8. Bb4 Kf6 9. Bc3 Ra8 {[%eval -176,60] [%emt 0:03:14]} 10. Ba5 {[%eval -170,55] [%emt 0:01:33]} Be2 {[%eval -176,63] [%emt 0:00:00] (Ke6)} 11. f3 {[%eval -170, 55] [%emt 0:00:45]} Bc4 {[%eval -176,59] [%emt 0:00:31] (Tc8)} 12. Nd7+ { [%eval -170,56] [%emt 0:02:28] (Lb4)} Ke7 {[%eval -176,55] [%emt 0:01:00]} 13. Ne5 {[%eval -170,64] [%emt 0:00:00] (Sc5)} Kf6 {[%eval -176,62] [%emt 0:01:57] (Tc8)} 14. Bd2 {[%eval -170,64] [%emt 0:01:51] (Lb4)} a5 {[%eval -176,62] [%emt 0:01:02] (Th8)} 15. Bc3 {[%eval -170,63] [%emt 0:01:08]} Bb3 {[%eval -176,56] [%emt 0:00:27] (a4)} 16. Nd7+ {[%eval -170,64] [%emt 0:01:07] (Sd3)} Kf7 {[%eval -176,63] [%emt 0:01:34]} 17. Bd2 {[%eval -170,63] [%emt 0:00:00] (Se5+)} a4 {[%eval -176,61] [%emt 0:02:23] (Lc4)} 18. Bb4 {[%eval -170,65] [%emt 0:01:16] (Se5+)} Ke6 {[%eval -176,63] [%emt 0:01:05] (Tc8)} 19. Nc5+ { [%eval -170,65] [%emt 0:01:37] (Se5)} Kf7 {[%eval -176,70] [%emt 0:01:22] (Kf6) } 20. Nd3 {[%eval -170,66] [%emt 0:01:30] (Sd7)} Bd1 {[%eval -176,70] [%emt 0: 01:15] (Lc4)} 21. Kf2 {[%eval -170,61] [%emt 0:01:11] (Ld2)} Ke6 {[%eval -176, 63] [%emt 0:01:55] (Tc8)} 22. Kg2 {[%eval -170,65] [%emt 0:01:15] (Lc3)} Rd8 { [%eval -176,66] [%emt 0:01:31] (Th8)} 23. Ne5 {[%eval -170,70] [%emt 0:01:25] (Sc5+)} Rc8 {[%eval -176,67] [%emt 0:02:40]} 24. Bc3 {[%eval -170,75] [%emt 0: 00:00]} Rh8 {[%eval -176,67] [%emt 0:01:27] (Te8)} 25. Bb4 {[%eval -170,71] [%emt 0:02:10] (Sd3)} Bc2 {[%eval -176,72] [%emt 0:01:23] (Td8)} 26. Be1 { [%eval -170,71] [%emt 0:01:38] (Lc3)} Bb1 {[%eval -176,67] [%emt 0:01:44] (Te8) } 27. Bd2 {[%eval -170,71] [%emt 0:01:25] (Lc3)} Ba2 {[%eval -176,65] [%emt 0: 01:57] (Lh7)} 28. Nd3 {[%eval -170,62] [%emt 0:01:55] (Lc3)} Ra8 {[%eval -176, 65] [%emt 0:01:29] (Lb3)} 29. Bb4 {[%eval -170,69] [%emt 0:02:48] (Lc3)} Bb1 { [%eval -176,65] [%emt 0:02:18] (Lb3)} 30. Nc5+ {[%eval -170,68] [%emt 0:01:27]} Kf7 {[%eval -176,72] [%emt 0:00:00] adj. draw} 1/2-1/2 [/pgn]

Let's leave it for good, White can build up a fortress again and again and I simply can't tell if Black can deny that with perfect play.

Changing to your new position soon, but will need some time in between for other things right now.
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Re: Yet another borderline position

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Nordlandia wrote: [d]r5k1/pb3p2/1p2p1p1/3n3p/3P3P/P7/1P1B1PP1/R3R1K1 b - - 0
Indeed there doesn't seem to be much progress in engine's output. (At least not in the first 20 moves of any of the lines below.)

16MV in depth 51 with full Syzygys after 1...a5 (which transposes to some other first black moves sooner or later e.g. to 1...Kf8 ):


[d]r5k1/1b3p2/1p2p1p1/p2n3p/3P3P/P7/1P1B1PP1/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1
Analysis by CFish 180418 x64 POP N:

1. +/- (1.60): 2.f3 Kf8 3.Kf2 Ke7 4.a4 Lc6 5.Tec1 Kd7 6.b3 Lb7 7.Te1 Lc6 8.Tac1 Lb7 9.Tc4 La6 10.Tc2 Ld3 11.Tb2 La6 12.Ta1 Lb7 13.Tc2 f6 14.Tb1 La6 15.Tbc1 Ld3 16.Tb2 La6 17.Kg3 Lb7 18.Tbc2 Tg8 19.Kh2 Td8 20.Le1 Ke8 21.Kg3 Kd7 22.Kh3 Ke7 23.Lg3 Ke8 24.Te2 Kf7 25.Kh2 La6 26.Tec2 Ke7 27.Tb2 Lb7

2. +/- (1.60): 2.a4 Kf8 3.Tac1 Ke7 4.f3 Kd7 5.Kf2 La6 6.g3 Ke7 7.Ted1 Kd7 8.b3 Td8 9.Lg5 Ta8 10.Lf4 Td8 11.Le5 Tf8 12.Tc2 Ta8 13.Lf4 Ke7 14.Te1 Kd7 15.Tec1 Ke8 16.Th1 Ke7 17.Tcc1 Kd7 18.Kg2 Lb7 19.Tc2 Td8 20.Kf2 La6 21.Thc1 Ke8 22.Ld2 Ta8 23.Kg2 Kd7 24.Lf4 Ke8 25.Tc6 Lb7 26.T6c4 La6 27.T4c2

3. +/- (1.60): 2.Tec1 Kf8 3.a4 Kg7 4.f3 Kf8 5.Kf2 La6 6.Tc6 Ke8 7.Td1 Kd7 8.Tcc1 Ke8 9.b3 Kd7 10.Tc2 Ld3 11.Tb2 La6 12.Th1 f6 13.Ta1 Lb7 14.Tc2 Th8 15.Tcc1 Ta8 16.Tab1 La6 17.Tb2 Lb7 18.Kg3 Tb8 19.Tbc2 Td8 20.Te1 Th8 21.Kf2 Tg8 22.Td1 La6 23.Tb2 Tc8 24.Ta1 Lb7 25.Kg3 Ta8 26.Kh2 Lc6 27.Tc2 Lb7

4. +/- (1.60): 2.Tac1 Kf8 3.a4 Ke7 4.f3 Kd7 5.Kf2 La6 6.g3 Ke7 7.Ted1 Kd7 8.b3 Td8 9.Lg5 Ta8 10.Lf4 Td8 11.Le5 Tf8 12.Tc2 Ta8 13.Lf4 Ke7 14.Te1 Kd7 15.Tec1 Ke8 16.Th1 Ke7 17.Tcc1 Kd7 18.Kg2 Lb7 19.Tc2 Td8 20.Kf2 La6 21.Thc1 Ke8 22.Lg5 Ta8 23.Td2 Kd7 24.Kg2 Th8 25.Lf4 Ta8 26.Tdd1 Lb7 27.Kf2 Td8

5. +/- (1.60): 2.Lh6 Kh7 3.Ld2 Kg8 4.Tac1 Kf8 5.a4 Ke7 6.f3 Kd7 7.Kf2 La6 8.g3 Ke7 9.Ted1 Kd7 10.b3 Td8 11.Lg5 Ta8 12.Lf4 Td8 13.Le5 Tf8 14.Tc2 Ta8 15.Lf4 Ke7 16.Te1 Kd7 17.Tec1 Ke8 18.Th1 Ke7 19.Tcc1 Kd7 20.Kg2 Lb7 21.Tc2 Td8 22.Kf2 La6 23.Thc1 Ke8 24.Lg5 Ta8 25.Td2 Kd7 26.Kg2 Th8 27.Tdc2 Ta8

6. +/- (1.60): 2.Kh1 Kf8 3.a4 Ke7 4.Kh2 Kf8 5.Tec1 Ke8 6.f3 Kd7 7.b3 f6 8.Le1 Lc6 9.Ta2 Lb7 10.Tb2 Ke8 11.Lf2 Kd7 12.Tbc2 Td8 13.Lg3 Ke8 14.Ta1 Kd7 15.Le1 Ta8 16.Tac1 Td8 17.Ld2 Ta8 18.Lf4 Ke8 19.Kg3 Td8 20.Ld2 Kd7 21.Te1 Th8 22.Kh2 Tg8 23.Tb2 Tc8 24.Ta1 Ta8 25.Tc1 Tb8 26.Le1 Ta8 27.Lg3 Td8

7. +/- (1.60): 2.Ted1 Kf8 3.Tac1 Ke8 4.f3 Kd7 5.a4 La6 6.Kf2 Ke8 7.b3 Kd7 8.Tc2 Ld3 9.Tb2 La6 10.Th1 f6 11.Ta1 Lb7 12.Tc2 Th8 13.Tcc1 Ta8 14.Tab1 La6 15.Tb2 Lb7 16.Tg1 Tc8 17.Kg3 Ta8 18.Tc1 Tb8 19.Tbc2 Td8 20.Te1 Th8 21.Kh2 Tg8 22.Tb2 Tc8 23.Ta1 Ta8 24.Tc1 Tb8 25.Le1 Td8 26.b4 axb4 27.Lxb4

8. +/- (1.60): 2.Kh2 Kf8 3.a4 Lc6 4.Tec1 Lb7 5.f3 Ke8 6.Kg3 La6 7.Tc6 Kd7 8.Tac1 f6 9.Kh2 Lb7 10.T6c2 La6 11.b3 Lb7 12.Lf4 Ke8 13.Kg3 Td8 14.Ld2 Kd7 15.Te1 Th8 16.Kh2 Tg8 17.Tb2 Tc8 18.Ta1 Ta8 19.Tc1 Tb8 20.Le1 Td8 21.b4 axb4 22.Lxb4 Lc6 23.a5 Sxb4 24.Txb4 bxa5 25.Tbc4 Ld5 26.Tc7+ Ke8 27.Ta7 Lb3

9. +/- (1.60): 2.Tab1 Kf8 3.f3 Ke8 4.a4 Lc6 5.b3 Kd7 6.Tbc1 Tg8 7.Tc2 Lb7 8.Kf2 f6 9.Td1 La6 10.Tb2 Tc8 11.Ta1 Lb7 12.Kg3 Ta8 13.Kh2 Lc6 14.Tc2 Lb7 15.Tb1 Tg8 16.Tbc1 Ta8 17.Lf4 Ke8 18.Kg3 Td8 19.Ld2 Kd7 20.Te1 Th8 21.Kh2 Tg8 22.Tb2 Tc8 23.Ta1 Ta8 24.Tc1 Tb8 25.Le1 Ta8 26.Lg3 Td8 27.Tbc2 Ke8

10. +/- (1.60): 2.g3 Kf8 3.f3 Ke8 4.Kf2 Ke7 5.Tac1 Kd7 6.a4 La6 7.Th1 Lb7 8.b3 La6 9.Lf4 Ke7 10.Le5 Kd7 11.Thd1 Tf8 12.Tc2 Ta8 13.Lf4 Ke7 14.Te1 Kd7 15.Tec1 Ke8 16.Th1 Ke7 17.Tcc1 Kd7 18.Kg2 Lb7 19.Tc2 Td8 20.Kf2 La6 21.Thc1 Ke8 22.Lg5 Ta8 23.Td2 Kd7 24.Kg2 Th8 25.Tdc2 Ta8 26.Lf4 Ke8 27.Tc6 Lb7

11. +/- (1.60): 2.Teb1 La6 3.a4 Ld3 4.Tc1 Kf8 5.Ta3 Lf5 6.Kh2 f6 7.f3 Ke8 8.Ta2 Ld3 9.b3 La6 10.Taa1 Kd7 11.Tab1 Ta7 12.Tb2 Lb7 13.Tbc2 Ta8 14.Lf4 Ke8 15.Lg3 Td8 16.Kh3 Ke7 17.Le1 Kd7 18.Tc4 La6 19.Tc6 Lb7 20.T6c2 Ke7 21.Ld2 Kd7 22.Ta2 Ta8 23.Kg3 Th8 24.Tb2 Tb8 25.Tbc2 Tg8 26.Tg1 La6 27.Th1

12. +/- (1.60): 2.Lg5 Kf8 3.a4 La6 4.Tac1 Ke8 5.Ld2 Kd7 6.f3 Ld3 7.Kf2 f6 8.Kg3 La6 9.Th1 Ld3 10.b3 Lf5 11.Thg1 Th8 12.Kh2 Ld3 13.Tgd1 Le2 14.Th1 La6 15.Kg1 Lb7 16.Tc2 La6 17.Kh2 Tg8 18.Kg3 Lb7 19.Tcc1 La6 20.Ta1 Ta8 21.Thg1 Ld3 22.Tac1 La6 23.Kf2 Th8 24.Th1 Ld3 25.The1 Lf5 26.Ke2 Tg8 27.Th1

13. +/- (1.60): 2.Tad1 Kf8 3.Tc1 Ke7 4.a4 Kd7 5.Te2 f6 6.f3 La6 7.Te4 Lb7 8.Tee1 La6 9.b3 Tg8 10.Kh2 Ld3 11.Tg1 Th8 12.Kg3 La6 13.Th1 Le2 14.Kf2 Ld3 15.Thd1 Lf5 16.Ke2 Ke7 17.Tc4 Tg8 18.Tdc1 Kd7 19.Th1 Ta8 20.Tcc1 Th8 21.Thg1 Kd6 22.Kf2 Kd7 23.g4 Ld3 24.g5 Tf8 25.gxf6 Txf6 26.Tge1 La6 27.Te5 Lb7

14. +/- (1.60): 2.Le3 Kf8 3.a4 Ke8 4.Ld2 Kd7 5.Tec1 f6 6.Kh2 La6 7.f3 Tg8 8.Tg1 Tc8 9.Tac1 Th8 10.Tge1 Td8 11.b3 Ld3 12.Th1 Tg8 13.Kg3 Te8 14.Kf2 Th8 15.Thd1 Lf5 16.Ke2 Ke7 17.Tc4 Tg8 18.Tdc1 Kd7 19.Th1 Ta8 20.Td1 Tg8 21.Tg1 Th8 22.Tcc1 Kd6 23.Tge1 Ke7 24.Tc6 Kd7 25.Tec1 Tg8 26.T1c4 g5 27.hxg5 fxg5

15. +/- (1.60): 2.Te5 Kf8 3.a4 La6 4.Tc1 Ld3 5.Tc6 Ke7 6.Te1 Kd7 7.Tcc1 La6 8.f3 Ld3 9.Kf2 f6 10.Kg3 La6 11.Th1 Ld3 12.b3 Th8 13.The1 Td8 14.Kf2 Th8 15.Ted1 Lf5 16.Ke2 Ke7 17.Tc4 Tg8 18.Tdc1 Kd7 19.Th1 Ta8 20.Td1 Tg8 21.Tg1 Th8 22.Tcc1 Kd6 23.Tgf1 Kd7 24.Kf2 Ke7 25.Tg1 Kd7 26.g4 Ld3 27.g5 Tf8

16. +/- (1.60): 2.Te4 Kf8 3.Tc1 Ke7 4.a4 La6 5.Tee1 Kd7 6.f3 Ld3 7.Kf2 f6 8.Kg3 La6 9.Th1 Ld3 10.b3 Th8 11.The1 Td8 12.Kf2 Th8 13.Ted1 Lf5 14.Ke2 Ke7 15.Tc4 Tg8 16.Tdc1 Kd7 17.Th1 Ta8 18.Td1 Tg8 19.Tg1 Th8 20.Tcc1 Kd6 21.Tgf1 Kd7 22.Kf2 Ke7 23.Tg1 Kd7 24.g4 Ld3 25.g5 Tf8 26.gxf6 Txf6 27.Tge1 La6
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Re: Yet another borderline position

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TC: 30m+30s
CPU: 2500K 4.5GHz & 5960X 4.5GHz
Core Count: 3-Core
Ponder: On
Hash: 4096 Mb
Syzygy: 5-men
GUI: Fritz 16 Engine Cloud
Move overhead: 300ms
Internet connection: ethernet (more reliable than wifi
Komodo setting: default (except move overhead and contempt)
Komodo contempt: -15
Stockfish: default settings (except move overhead)

[pgn][Event "DESKTOP-N1IDKRV, Rapid 30m+30s"] [Site "DESKTOP-N1IDKRV"] [Date "2018.04.24"] [Round "1"] [White "Stockfish 240418 64 POPCNT"] [Black "Komodo 11.3.1 64-bit"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [Annotator "1.69;1.49"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "r5k1/pb3p2/1p2p1p1/3n3p/3P3P/P7/1P1B1PP1/R3R1K1 b - - 0 1"] [PlyCount "148"] [TimeControl "1800+30"] {Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5960X CPU @ 3.00GHz 3000 MHz W=54.3 plies; 7 947kN/s; 179 107 005 TBAs B=45.7 plies; 8 137kN/s; 330 180 848 TBAs} 1... Kf8 {1.49/35 83 Both last book move} 2. f3 {1.69/37 61} Ke7 {1.56/35 106 (a5)} 3. Rac1 { 1.68/40 31 (Kf2)} Kd6 {1.55/37 188 (Kd7)} 4. Kf2 {1.69/43 40} Rh8 {1.54/39 32 (a5)} 5. g3 {1.82/40 76 (Rh1)} Kd7 {1.55/41 105} 6. b3 {1.75/42 0 (Red1)} f6 { 1.48/38 102 (Ra8)} 7. Bf4 {1.72/40 43 (Rc2)} Rf8 {1.47/38 62} 8. Rg1 {1.87/40 29} a5 {1.46/41 28 (Ba6)} 9. Bd2 {1.72/44 59 (Rc2)} Bc6 {1.46/38 77} 10. a4 { 1.72/48 0} Rd8 {1.46/40 78 (Rb8)} 11. Rc4 {1.72/51 81 (Rc2)} Bb7 {1.46/40 56 (Rh8)} 12. g4 {2.20/33 33 (Rgc1)} hxg4 {1.71/34 118} 13. Rxg4 {2.12/41 0} Rg8 { 1.70/34 146} 14. h5 {2.20/50 0} Ne7 {1.81/36 101} 15. hxg6 {2.20/53 0 (Bf4)} Rxg6 {1.53/36 58} 16. b4 {2.20/53 6 (Bf4)} Rxg4 {1.57/39 123} 17. fxg4 { 2.20/58 0} axb4 {1.58/41 49} 18. Rxb4 {2.20/57 0} Nd5 {1.57/45 83} 19. Rb1 { 2.20/58 0} Bc6 {1.57/43 49 (Ba6)} 20. Ra1 {2.20/55 55} Ke8 {1.57/42 2 (Ne7)} 21. a5 {2.20/56 61} bxa5 {1.55/37 0} 22. Rxa5 {2.20/60 52} Kf7 {1.55/39 14 (Ne7)} 23. Ra7+ {2.20/59 50} Ke8 {1.49/41 12} 24. g5 {2.20/63 64 (Ra6)} fxg5 { 1.48/44 52} 25. Bxg5 {2.20/68 0} Bb5 {1.49/45 62} 26. Ke1 {2.20/73 0 (Kf3)} Bd3 {1.51/48 167} 27. Kd2 {2.20/83 0 (Bh6)} Be4 {1.52/49 99 (Bf5)} 28. Kc1 { 2.20/73 64 (Bh6)} Bd3 {1.52/47 51 (Bf5)} 29. Kd2 {2.20/76 63 (Kb2)} Be4 { 1.46/48 307 (Bf5)} 30. Rb7 {2.20/66 66 (Bh6)} Bh1 {1.44/41 37 (Kf8)} 31. Kc1 { 2.20/62 82 (Rg7)} Kf8 {1.44/42 37 (Bf3)} 32. Kb2 {2.20/65 72 (Rh7)} Be4 { 1.43/42 44} 33. Bh6+ {2.20/66 18 (Kb3)} Ke8 {1.30/44 35} 34. Bg7 {2.20/68 42 (Ra7)} Ne7 {1.30/49 40} 35. Ra7 {2.20/68 32} Bd5 {1.30/45 27 (Nc6)} 36. Bf6 { 2.41/67 84} Nf5 {1.18/50 0 (Nc8)} 37. Kc3 {2.41/72 79 (Rc7)} Kf8 {1.03/47 47 (Nd6)} 38. Kb4 {2.41/66 68 (Be5)} Kg8 {1.04/49 37 (Ke8)} 39. Be5 {2.41/73 64 (Kc5)} Kf8 {1.05/50 40} 40. Kb5 {2.41/68 19 (Ka3)} Ke8 {1.04/48 46 (Be4)} 41. Rh7 {2.41/73 73} Ne3 {0.98/51 0 (Be4)} 42. Rc7 {2.41/68 62 (Kb6)} Nf5 {0.89/46 36 (Nd1)} 43. Kb4 {2.41/70 62 (Bf6)} Kf8 {0.75/50 147} 44. Rd7 {2.41/72 0 (Kc3) } Kg8 {0.80/46 28 (Be4)} 45. Kc5 {2.41/64 89} Kf8 {0.61/50 0} 46. Rc7 {2.41/66 403 (Bd6+)} Kg8 {0.62/48 48 (Ke8)} 47. Bd6 {2.41/65 50 (Bf4)} Bf3 {0.62/45 43} 48. Rd7 {2.41/61 26 (Bf4)} Bd5 {0.59/48 32 (Bg4)} 49. Ra7 {2.41/56 65} Bf3 { 0.59/50 0} 50. Bb8 {2.41/57 49 (Bf4)} Bd5 {0.54/47 34} 51. Bh2 {2.41/56 30 (Be5)} Kf8 {0.46/49 149 (Bf3)} 52. Be5 {2.41/48 60 (Rc7)} Ne3 {0.47/45 31 (Ke8) } 53. Kb4 {2.41/48 467 (Bd6+)} Ng2 {0.42/42 32 (Nd1)} 54. Bg7+ {2.41/44 134 (Kc3)} Ke8 {0.39/42 36} 55. Be5 {2.41/45 0 (Bh6)} Ne3 {0.37/43 30 (Kf8)} 56. Bf4 {2.41/44 44} Nf5 {0.35/39 0} 57. Kc5 {2.41/43 59 (Bg5)} Ne7 {0.30/36 42 (Be4)} 58. Bc1 {2.39/42 215 (Rc7)} Nf5 {0.32/34 46} 59. Bf4 {2.41/38 73 (Rh7)} Kf8 {0.29/36 22 (Be4)} 60. Be5 {2.41/37 95 (Rc7)} Ne3 {0.07/31 31 (Ke8)} 61. Bf4 {2.39/34 51 (Bd6+)} Nd1 {0.00/45 23 (Nc2)} 62. Kb6 {2.41/30 24 (Kd6)} Nf2 { 0.00/48 25 (Nc3)} 63. Bg3 {2.41/28 35 (Kc7)} Nd1 {0.00/51 24 (Ne4)} 64. Rh7 { 2.41/29 30 (Bf4)} Kg8 {0.00/57 27 (Nb2)} 65. Rd7 {2.41/31 29 (Ra7)} Nb2 { 0.00/56 24 (Ne3)} 66. Kb5 {2.41/26 30 (Kc7)} Nd1 {0.00/56 27 (Nd3)} 67. Rc7 { 2.24/33 30 (Kb6)} Kf8 {0.00/49 25 (Ne3)} 68. Bf4 {2.20/34 29 (Kb4)} Nf2 { 0.00/57 25} 69. Bh6+ {1.06/33 5 (Ka4)} Kg8 {0.00/62 33 (Ke8)} 70. Rd7 {0.68/37 23 (Bf4)} Ne4 {0.00/67 27 (Bb3)} 71. Kb4 {0.00/75 60 (Ra7)} Nf6 {0.00/64 27} 72. Rd8+ {0.00/74 0} Kf7 {0.00/68 25 (Kh7)} 73. Rd6 {0.00/73 26 (Rc8)} Ne4 { 0.00/65 26} 74. Rb6 {0.00/96 0 (Rd8)} Kg6 {0.00/78 32} 75. Bc1 {0.00/127 0 Draw accepted} 1/2-1/2 [/pgn]
peter
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Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:38 am
Full name: Peter Martan

Re: Yet another borderline position

Post by peter »

So we agree about this one rather quickly, don't we?
:)
Peter.