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by RogerC
Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:11 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish NNUE speed is improved a lot
Replies: 3
Views: 705

Re: Stockfish NNUE speed is improved a lot

GitHub says: On CPUs supporting modern vector instructions (avx2 and similar), the NNUE evaluation results in stronger playing strength, even if the nodes per second computed by the engine is somewhat lower (roughly 60% of nps is typical). I also remember first NNUE versions speed was about 65-70% ...
by RogerC
Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:43 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Has Stockfish NNUE reached it's limit now?
Replies: 29
Views: 5161

Re: Has Stockfish NNUE reached it's limit now?

To mesure a progression in engines ELO, first you have to play a lot of games as the differences between versions are near 1 ELO or less. 50000 games would be the minimum to have a good evaluation of progression (or regression). NCM chess dev-builds evaluations plays only 20000 games, and vs a very ...
by RogerC
Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:19 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Samsung S20 FE /Chess GUI/Compiling Help/Question
Replies: 9
Views: 979

Re: Samsung S20 FE /Chess GUI/Compiling Help/Question

this is a digitally signed apk good for 50 years ;>) - should be exact same version of droidfish on Google Play (1.84) - but if you would like to help me out and kick the tires, that would be great - obviously, the endgame is to get Honey, Black-Diamond , Oki Maguro and Weakfish up and running on G...
by RogerC
Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Lc0 with latest test30 nets is vastly superior positionally
Replies: 62
Views: 18086

Re: Lc0 with latest test30 nets is vastly superior positionally

Used this net: 10/01/2020 01:41 PM 21,022,697 nn-baeb9ef2d183.nnue With October 1 source code build (darn embedded... Grrrrrr): 10/01/2020 02:57 PM 22,306,816 stockfish-x64-avx2.exe at 15 minutes per position with 60 threads: r1bqkbnr/1ppp1ppp/p1n5/4p3/B3P3/5N2/PPPP1PPP/RNBQK2R b KQkq - acd 56; ce ...
by RogerC
Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:14 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Lc0 with latest test30 nets is vastly superior positionally
Replies: 62
Views: 18086

Re: Lc0 with latest test30 nets is vastly superior positionally

A new check with the positional test suite Openings200, included are NNUE engines too. Top places go to NN engines, which haven't appeared yet when I built the test suite in 2016. .... Just for the fun you can check positional tests suites. But in real life game it's diffrent. SFDEV is leading TCEC...
by RogerC
Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:11 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Samsung S20 FE /Chess GUI/Compiling Help/Question
Replies: 9
Views: 979

Re: Samsung S20 FE /Chess GUI/Compiling Help/Question

My son's company, is getting me a Samsung S2O FE (Fan Edition) , while I do some part time work for them. Any suggestions on a GUI? I am most interested in running Stockfish and particularly my SF clones (the Honey engines) . What is the best method method to build from source? I am currently livin...
by RogerC
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CCRL flawed testing : SF12 above SF12 8CPU
Replies: 59
Views: 7371

Re: CCRL flawed testing : SF12 above SF12 8CPU

I'm not a fan of CCRL any more, just for that. They mix Multicore results and single core with completely different opponents. No doubt that the results will be necessarely biased ! I only look at CEGT 40/4 and 40/20 tournaments, which is more accurate in ELO calculations on Single and Multicore Eng...
by RogerC
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:48 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: 87% of the poll voted that SF will win Tcec Sufi 19.
Replies: 93
Views: 9396

Re: 87% of the poll voted that SF will win Tcec Sufi 19.

You could be right. But SF is a hybrid engine for a reason. If Stockfish can increase its NN size and power with only CPU power. Then yes, Lc0 will have a hard time. But again who is to say. That Lc0 or others engines will not use both CPU, and GPU in the future. Horsepower is Horsepower. If you ge...
by RogerC
Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:56 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: 87% of the poll voted that SF will win Tcec Sufi 19.
Replies: 93
Views: 9396

Re: 87% of the poll voted that SF will win Tcec Sufi 19.

It's like comparing a car how needs a V12 8L engine vs a 2L 4 cylinder car, just to have same speed. Stockfish is just ultra poweful with only 1 CPU. It can beat LC0 who needs more than 2000 Cuba cores graphics card to play correctly. I used to buy big graphics card just to have LC0 working, but now...
by RogerC
Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:05 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Is "Pure" NNUE strong also in losing position?
Replies: 12
Views: 2276

Re: Is "Pure" NNUE strong also in losing position?

Another losing position where SF (with hybrid eval) is blind to a way out (bm e6). CFish with "pure" NNUE eval finds it in a second :